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1- The Quran on Human Embryonic Development:
In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:


We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... 1 (Quran, 23:12-14)

Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.3



The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.

The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage4 (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week.5 Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood.

So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqah stage.

The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”6

How could Muhammad have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after Muhammad ). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.7

Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore8 is one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of anatomy and embryology and is the author of the book entitled The Developing Human, which has been translated into eight languages. This book is a scientific reference work and was chosen by a special committee in the United States as the best book authored by one person. Dr. Keith Moore is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. There, he was Associate Dean of Basic Sciences at the Faculty of Medicine and for 8 years was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy. In 1984, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has directed many international associations, such as the Canadian and American Association of Anatomists and the Council of the Union of Biological Sciences.

In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Moore said: “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God.”9 (To view the RealPlayer video of this comment click here ).

Consequently, Professor Moore was asked the following question: “Does this mean that you believe that the Quran is the word of God?” He replied: “I find no difficulty in accepting this.”10

During one conference, Professor Moore stated: “....Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah (what Muhammad said, did, or approved of). The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge. The intensive studies of the Quran and hadeeth (reliably transmitted reports by the Prophet Muhammad’s companions of what he said, did, or approved of) in the last four years have revealed a system for classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D. Although Aristotle, the founder of the science of embryology, realized that chick embryos developed in stages from his studies of hen’s eggs in the fourth century B.C., he did not give any details about these stages. As far as it is known from the history of embryology, little was known about the staging and classification of human embryos until the twentieth century. For this reason, the descriptions of the human embryo in the Quran cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century. The only reasonable conclusion is: these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God. He could not have known such details because he was an illiterate man with absolutely no scientific training.”11 (View the RealPlayer video of this comment ).



2-Some Basic Islamic Beliefs
1) Belief in God:
Muslims believe in one, unique, incomparable God, Who has no son nor partner, and that none has the right to be worshipped but Him alone. He is the true God, and every other deity is false. He has the most magnificent names and sublime perfect attributes. No one shares His divinity, nor His attributes. In the Quran, God describes Himself:


Say, “He is God, the One. God, to Whom the creatures turn for their needs. He begets not, nor was He begotten, and there is none like Him.” (Quran, 112:1-4)


No one has the right to be invoked, supplicated, prayed to, or shown any act of worship, but God alone.

God alone is the Almighty, the Creator, the Sovereign, and the Sustainer of everything in the whole universe. He manages all affairs. He stands in need of none of His creatures, and all His creatures depend on Him for all that they need. He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing, and the All-Knowing. In a perfect manner, His knowledge encompasses all things, the open and the secret, and the public and the private. He knows what has happened, what will happen, and how it will happen. No affair occurs in the whole world except by His will. Whatever He wills is, and whatever He does not will is not and will never be. His will is above the will of all the creatures. He has power over all things, and He is able to do everything. He is the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, and the Most Beneficent. In one of the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad , we are told that God is more merciful to His creatures than a mother to her child.1 God is far removed from injustice and tyranny. He is All-Wise in all of His actions and decrees. If someone wants something from God, he or she can ask God directly without asking anyone else to intercede with God for him or her.

God is not Jesus, and Jesus is not God.2 Even Jesus himself rejected this. God has said in the Quran:

Indeed, they have disbelieved who have said, “God is the Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary.” The Messiah said, “Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever associates partners in worship with God, then God has forbidden Paradise for him, and his home is the Fire (Hell). For the wrongdoers,3 there will be no helpers.” (Quran, 5:72)

God is not a trinity. God has said in the Quran:

Indeed, they disbelieve who say, “God is the third of three (in a trinity),” when there is no god but one God. If they desist not from what they say, truly, a painful punishment will befall the disbelievers among them. Would they not rather repent to God and ask His forgiveness? For God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a messenger... (Quran, 5:73-75)

Islam rejects that God rested on the seventh day of the creation, that He wrestled with one of His angels, that He is an envious plotter against mankind, or that He is incarnate in any human being. Islam also rejects the attribution of any human form to God. All of these are considered blasphemous. God is the Exalted. He is far removed from every imperfection. He never becomes weary. He does not become drowsy nor does he sleep.

The Arabic word Allah means God (the one and only true God who created the whole universe). This word Allah is a name for God, which is used by Arabic speakers, both Arab Muslims and Arab Christians. This word cannot be used to designate anything other than the one true God. The Arabic word Allah occurs in the Quran about 2700 times. In Aramaic, a language related closely to Arabic and the language that Jesus habitually spoke,4 God is also referred to as Allah.

2) Belief in the Angels:
Muslims believe in the existence of the angels and that they are honored creatures. The angels worship God alone, obey Him, and act only by His command. Among the angels is Gabriel, who brought down the Quran to Muhammad .

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3) Belief in God’s Revealed Books:
Muslims believe that God revealed books to His messengers as proof for mankind and as guidance for them. Among these books is the Quran, which God revealed to the Prophet Muhammad . God has guaranteed the Quran’s protection from any corruption or distortion. God has said:

Indeed, We have sent down the Quran, and surely We will guard it (from corruption). (Quran, 15:9)
4) Belief in the Prophets and Messengers of God:
Muslims believe in the prophets and messengers of God, starting with Adam, including Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and Jesus (peace be upon them). But God’s final message to man, a reconfirmation of the eternal message, was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad . Muslims believe that Muhammad is the last prophet sent by God, as God has said:

Muhammad is not the father of any one of your men, but he is the Messenger of God and the last of the prophets... (Quran, 33:40)

Muslims believe that all the prophets and messengers were created human beings who had none of the divine qualities of God.

5) Belief in the Day of Judgment:
Muslims believe in the Day of Judgment (the Day of Resurrection) when all people will be resurrected for God’s judgment according to their beliefs and deeds.

6) Belief in Al-Qadar:
Muslims believe in Al-Qadar, which is Divine Predestination, but this belief in Divine Predestination does not mean that human beings do not have freewill. Rather, Muslims believe that God has given human beings freewill. This means that they can choose right or wrong and that they are responsible for their choices.

The belief in Divine Predestination includes belief in four things: 1) God knows everything. He knows what has happened and what will happen. 2) God has recorded all that has happened and all that will happen. 3) Whatever God wills to happen happens, and whatever He wills not to happen does not happen. 4) God is the Creator of everything.

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What Is Islam?
The religion of Islam is the acceptance of and obedience to the teachings of God which He revealed to His last prophet, Muhammad .

Is There Any Sacred Source
Other than the Quran?
Yes. The sunnah (what the Prophet Muhammad said, did, or approved of) is the second source in Islam. The sunnah is comprised of hadeeths, which are reliably transmitted reports by the Prophet Muhammad’s companions of what he said, did, or approved of. Belief in the sunnah is a basic Islamic belief

Examples of the Prophet
Muhammad’s Sayings
n {The believers, in their love, mercy, and kindness to one another are like a body: if any part of it is ill, the whole body shares its sleeplessness and fever.}1


n {The most perfect of the believers in faith are the best of them in morals. And the best among them are those who are best to their wives.}2

n {None of you believes (completely) until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.}3

n {The merciful are shown mercy by the All-Merciful. Show mercy to those on earth, and God will show mercy to you.}4

n {Smiling at your brother is charity...}5

n {A good word is charity.}6

n {Whoever believes in God and the Last Day (the Day of Judgment) should do good to his neighbor.}7

n {God does not judge you according to your appearance and your wealth, but He looks at your hearts and looks into your deeds.}8

n {Pay the worker his wage before his sweat dries.}9

n {A man walking along a path felt very thirsty. Reaching a well, he descended into it, drank his fill, and came up. Then he saw a dog with its tongue hanging out, trying to lick up mud to quench its thirst. The man said, “This dog is feeling the same thirst that I felt.” So he went down into the well again, filled his shoe with water, and gave the dog a drink. So, God thanked him and forgave his sins.} The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}

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What Does Islam Say about
the Day of Judgment?
Like Christians, Muslims believe that the present life is only a trial preparation for the next realm of existence. This life is a test for each individual for the life after death. A day will come when the whole universe will be destroyed and the dead will be resurrected for judgment by God. This day will be the beginning of a life that will never end. This day is the Day of Judgment. On that day, all people will be rewarded by God according to their beliefs and deeds. Those who die while believing that “There is no true god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger (Prophet) of God” and are Muslim will be rewarded on that day and will be admitted to Paradise forever, as God has said:


And those who believe and do good deeds, they are dwellers of Paradise, they dwell therein forever. (Quran, 2:82)

But those who die while not believing that “There is no true god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger (Prophet) of God” or are not Muslim will lose Paradise forever and will be sent to Hellfire, as God has said:

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and he will be one of the losers in the Hereafter. (Quran, 3:85)

And as He has said:

Those who have disbelieved and died in disbelief, the earth full of gold would not be accepted from any of them if it were offered as a ransom. They will have a painful punishment, and they will have no helpers. (Quran, 3:91)

One may ask, ‘I think Islam is a good religion, but if I were to convert to Islam, my family, friends, and other people would persecute me and make fun of me. So if I do not convert to Islam, will I enter Paradise and be saved from Hellfire?’

The answer is what God has said in the preceding verse, “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and he will be one of the losers in the Hereafter.”

After having sent the Prophet Muhammad to call people to Islam, God does not accept adherence to any religion other than Islam. God is our Creator and Sustainer. He created for us whatever is in the earth. All the blessings and good things we have are from Him. So after all this, when someone rejects belief in God, His Prophet Muhammad , or His religion of Islam, it is just that he or she be punished in the Hereafter. Actually, the main purpose of our creation is to worship God alone and to obey Him, as God has said in the Holy Quran (51:56).

This life we live today is a very short life. The unbelievers on the Day of Judgment will think that the life they lived on earth was only a day or part of a day, as God has said:

He (God) will say, “How many years did you stay on the earth?” They will say: “We stayed a day or part of a day....” (Quran, 23:112-113)

And He has said:

Did you then think that We had created you in jest (without any purpose), and that you would not be returned to Us (in the Hereafter)? So, God is exalted, the True King. None has the right to be worshipped but Him... (Quran, 23:115-116)

The life in the Hereafter is a very real life. It is not only spiritual, but physical as well. We will live there with our souls and bodies.

In comparing this world with the Hereafter, the Prophet Muhammad said: {The value of this world compared to that of the Hereafter is like what your finger brings from the sea when you put it in and then take it out.}1 The meaning is that, the value of this world compared to that of the Hereafter is like a few drops of water compared to the sea.

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[norman]

Right....where do we start?

I choose life. by the way :P

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right .choose the Islam.
please answer me .
Are you satisfied in your life?
but by islam you Will feel comfortable.Will feel comfortable and trust
please read and choose .
it is islam
That the religion of God, who is not a fairy tale that is not how the Christian faith as it is not perverse ideology us the Jews>

That the religion of God, who is not a fairy tale that is not how the Christian faith as it is not perverse ideology us the Jews.


thank you

[norman]

Well, I choose no religion.

The reasons for this are manyfold, but I will give you a brief outline.

1) The evidence for the existence of God (any god) is non-existant and there can be no justification of believing in something that has no physical or even circumstantial evidence - so I don't.

2) The psychology of religion is such that every religion believes they are the right one and dismiss all others, regardless of how ridiculous the claims of their religion and how similar most of the mythology is to others. For example, Christianity and Islam are so similar in story and myth that they essentially share the same ideals yet the rivalry between the two is the root of most of the bloodshed of the middle ages and modern day. This to me suggests that either all gods are the same and each religion is just an interpretation of the same idea - in which case most of the claims of each religion about their uniqeness is incorrect, thust casting doubt on the other claims, or that religion is all just a figment of the human psyche.

3) All of the physical universe can be explained without the need for entering the god factor. This renders god unnecessary and in many cases is an unnecessary complication!

[grammar king mike]

Hehe, I've seen this before in a leaflet at my local mosque but I didn't think it was a widespread belief.

The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”

I actually thought it was a joke hehe.

I could probably chew a piece of gum so that it looked like a tree, or a car, or anything, at least as vaguely as a piece of chewed gum looks like an embryo. Does that mean trees and cars are chewed into shape by your god as well?

[Chris Worfolk]

I actually thought it was a joke hehe.

I could probably chew a piece of gum so that it looked like a tree, or a car, or anything, at least as vaguely as a piece of chewed gum looks like an embryo. Does that mean trees and cars are chewed into shape by your god as well?

Ha, yes, we are rolling around with laughter when we first discussed this at Leeds. We thought it was so good we even put it up on a poster at Rationalist Week.

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thank you to all.thank you.

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Perhaps Islam is the religion only meant careful attention to call the peace and make it
the first pillar .. . Having dealt with writing the Koran (peace and peace) in dozens of mandates Court. .. Not only that, but that peace name of God Almighty described the qualities (God is not God but the Lord is the king of peace), and make greeting him to worship, and instructed to make peace whales given by each other and slogans in all spheres of life, in the mosque The Institute and factory and store ..
The Dar es Salaam called Paradise: (and God calls to Dar es Salaam), Dar es Salaam them with their Lord: (Glorified claim to the God in which peace and sharks). . And make the Almighty God and to kick Radwan: (God guides those who follow the ways of peace Radwan). ). The verses that addressed many of peace, ranging from God saying: (a word from the Lord merciful), (Peace be upon Noah in the worlds ... peace ... peace for Abraham to Moses and Aaron on the peace ... ... Yassin and peace on Senders), to say the Ezzedine say: (peace is beginning to dawn), (and told them stockpiled peace you invalidate income immortal), to say: (page them and say peace will be working).
. Here was the slogan of Islam, Muslims all over the world since the advent of Islam so far. .. It is recognized by the slogan on the owner to him wherever and whenever left him, and says to him: ((peace be upon you)) and recognized by every day at least five times in prayers imposed when prayed and read greetings and concludes by saying his prayers: ((peace be upon you and God's mercy and blessings)) Twice, once with a left and another with the North .. . Must therefore be the motto is reported every day, every hour, one of the greatest religious values.
If peace as we have said from the names of Allah, what the meaning of this? (()).

ت.. It has been said in the definition of Islam so much: it was said: that it is amenable or surrender, no amenable to the orders of God Almighty avoiding surrender him are taken .. . But this is on the disposal of many Muslims even went out of its original meaning and value of the real, and thought that the surrender is this negative behaviour which protects the meaning of humanity, Islam has become a mere submission and subservience.
.. It was said: that Islam and the finding of safety and lack of impurities ..It was said: The peace that Islam is against aggression .. . Peace between the first and between Al himself, then a second between him and God, and then thirdly peace between him and other people.
.. This latest suits on the current concepts of the times .. . The world they live in fear and anxiety for fear of falling into a devastating war destroy crops and cattle, and there are calls for the United war, and it is equipped, and another calling for peace.
. Islam is a religion of peace and reason to put this value at the head of values in which Salah world and the finest and the introduction of his hand. . We have the first Muslim nation in light of the great Arab prophet Mohammed bin Abdullah on the basis of availability of these factors would not detract from the importance and impact on the formation of national unity should be for his children that day more than one religion, Islam, yes, a state first.
فإ. If its ideal as determined by the newspaper Moadeh between Muslims and Jews, the extension wing of security, peace and brotherhood to all the people of the cities is one. . Full equality in rights and duties, which has not been referring to differentiate between the Muslim majority and Arias and between the Jewish minority which is affiliated, as well as Christian, who acknowledged the severity of close ties, can not gain from human being to nail Pfkakea, they remain the eternal days and times, not Destabilized accidents, do not compromise their events.
. The brothers of Islam with followers of other heavenly religions tell their stories of history and reverence admiration and appreciation. Did not hear from the Messenger of Allah or one of his successors that they killed a Christian because he was not spared. ولم .. Did not hear about them in writing that they had been tortured or imprisoned or prevented from worship and the establishment of religion, they did not convey them through Noah war and advocacy of peaceful, demolished the church or sell it undermined .. )). But he said history: The Messenger of Allah Saleh Christians Najran recently wrote to them saying: ((For the vicinity of Najran and a protector of God and Muhammad Ali owed money and themselves, and the sale of malt and absentees and saw everything under the hands of a few or many. Does not change the bishop of Asagvih, nor monk Rhpanih , And the priest from Sihanouk, and insects in Congress, in Yatta lands Army)). . Even some Muslim caliphs, as he says (Adam Metz), the processions of Christians were attending clinics, ordering maintained, and that the government in case of rain interruption had ordered the conduct of processions go where Christians and on top of roofs, and the Jews and with Inflater trumpets, and monasteries also flourished and multiplied.

. Yes, Islam is a religion calls for peace, and if it had erupted in wars since the emergence of Islam, then it was motivated their aggression and self-defence, the fight against idolaters and tyrants and oppressors and the confirmation of folk religion of God and to uphold his word and cleansing of the land of tobacco amounts Conception and tyrants.
. Barely these new value received in the international field, and we mean by peace, even been heeded, before First of all peoples in other nations, and accepted by many states have no interest in war.
.. Thus we see the peace invitation to sweep the whole world again and will be victorious, God willing, because it right, because they call religion of Islam, which chosen .. . It comes to you Muslims is not good for security and should cooperate with him and to give your trust, and cooperation will be damaged by urbanization and go disturbances of souls and hearts Iakeca concern.
.. The corresponding value of peace aggression .. . Hence, conflict arises between values. أي. Aether individual aggression to peace or it reflects the influence of aggression. . Similarly, in United, a United calls for peace principle and take another war. . The global conflict in which we see its effects for the time being and we are living in the faces of every day, even every hour, but is in fact a conflict between two great opposing values attracted, namely: peace and aggression. . The history tell us that the advocates of war grew do so in the interests of certain groups, especially the owners of factories producing military equipment for the insanity of the profits far exceeded the imagination of millions of lives are lost and won distorting.
. The prudent Islam to damage arising from war and aggression that forbade the most forbidding in many states mentioned wise and year cleared, and humans aggressors painful doom and ashamed and Losing in this life. . It was necessary to emphasize the value of peace in Islam Zaman deviated States Britain known at that time, two Persians and the Romans. Knights were condemned easy, one god of good and evil, the other god, and gods they worshipped together! . The Romans, although the Christians, although the Christian doctrine of love and peace, has beaten all of this and ignore the patterns behind the spoils mundane Ihakkunha aggression and wars. Some countries are still pursuing this course of contemporary term for religious teachings and moral values.
. As Islam is an explicit call to peace. He says: (peace and suites have succeeded). . Those who think that the spread of Islam was the sword or what he calls some of the Orientalists ((Jihad)) so that jihad meant by jihad is not a defence to aggression without cause or corruption on earth, as well as Jihad aggressors and oppressors Zionists and colonialists.
: Islam and the Jews:
the lives of racism in response to the resurgence of selfishness and lust for hatred, discrimination and the pride and arrogance of enmity .. . As they are still a source of unrest for this world and cause rifts over the evils and soil. عند حد. And the ambitions of the Jews in our country seriously and many do not stop at an end. . World and dreams to establish a Jewish State has no great end. . And corruption in the Children of Israel's disease and old Asil. Since it sent Musa to rescue their position was with him as stated in Allah Almighty: (What is the security of Moussa only offspring of his people on the fear of Pharaoh and fill that sedition). . Then it was rebellion that Abdel calf while Moses was absent released: (you will not believe until we see God openly). ب. But they are nearly out of the Great Sea miraculous divine until they were bent on folk idols of them. قالوا: (يا موسى اجعل لنا إلهاً كما لهم آلهة). They said: (O Moses Make us a god to them as gods). ولم يقف تمرد اليهود على موسى وتبرمهم به عند هذا الحد، بل فعلوا معه أكثر من ذلك كله حين اتهموه بقتل أخيه هارون. Did not stop the rebellion of the Jews by Moses and Lieberman at this point, but they did him more than all that while accused of killing his brother Aaron.
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http://www.saaid.net/flash/rasool05.htm

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[grammar king mike]

Anyone else getting a little bored of this barely-legible, double-posted drivel? Someone ban this guy, this isn't the place for conversion tactics.

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Anyone else getting a little bored of this barely-legible, double-posted drivel? Someone ban this guy, this isn't the place for conversion tactics.

i am sorry to that.
the links are bad .
i will write from it.

[norman]

You sure that this is the place to do that?

You do realise that the people on this site are not going to convert to Islam based on you quoting scripture. I would bet that a lot of the users of this forum have read the Qu'ran, along with the Bible and a number of other religious texts. If they wern't swayed the first time then you quoting it isn't going to work.

Neither is pseudo-science. if you have a legitimate study to quote then go ahead, but it is unlikely that science is going to work either!

If you want to convert people then I recommend that you pray to your god and ask him to reveal himself in a reliable, repeatable and measurable way.

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You sure that this is the place to do that?

You do realise that the people on this site are not going to convert to Islam based on you quoting scripture. I would bet that a lot of the users of this forum have read the Qu'ran, along with the Bible and a number of other religious texts. If they wern't swayed the first time then you quoting it isn't going to work.

Neither is pseudo-science. if you have a legitimate study to quote then go ahead, but it is unlikely that science is going to work either!

If you want to convert people then I recommend that you pray to your god and ask him to reveal himself in a reliable, repeatable and measurable way.

oh ...
please read and choose. this is islam .
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Seven Questions About Islam


What is Islam?

The word "Islam" is an Arabic word that means "submitting and surrendering your will to Almighty God". The word comes from the same root as the Arabic word "salam", which means peace. Unlike the names used for other religions, such as Buddhism, Hinduism and Christianity, the name “Islam” was both revealed by God and mentioned explicitly in the Holy Scripture – The Qur’an. Islam carries a deep spiritual meaning — only by submitting one’s will to Almighty God can one obtain true peace both in this life and in the life hereafter. Islam teaches that all religions originally had the same essential message — which was to submit whole-heartedly to the will of God and to worship Him and Him alone. For this reason, Islam is not a new religion but is the same divinely revealed Ultimate Truth that God revealed to all prophets, including Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them all).

Who are Muslims?

The Arabic word "Muslim" literally means "someone who submits to the will of God". The message of Islam is meant for the entire world and anyone who accepts this message becomes a Muslim. Some people mistakenly believe that Islam is just a religion for Arabs, but nothing could be further from the truth, since in actuality over 80% of the world's Muslims are not Arabs! Even though most Arabs are Muslims, there are Arabs who are Christians, Jews and atheists. If one just takes a look at the various peoples who live in the Muslim World — from Nigeria to Bosnia and from Morocco to Indonesia — it is easy enough to see that Muslims come from all different races, ethnic groups and nationalities. From the very beginning, Islam had a universal message for all people. This can be seen in the fact that some of the early companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) were not only Arabs, but also Persians, Africans and Byzantine Romans. Being a Muslim entails complete acceptance and active obedience to the revealed will of Almighty God. A Muslim is a person who freely accepts to base his beliefs, values and faith on the will of Almighty God. In the past (even though you don't see it as much today), the word "Mohammedans" was often used as a label for Muslims. This label is a misnomer and is the result of either willful distortion or sheer ignorance. One of the reasons for the misconception is that Europeans were taught for centuries that Muslims worshipped the Prophet Muhammad in the same way that Christians worship Jesus. This is absolutely not true since a Muslim is not permitted to worship anyone or anything besides Almighty God.

Who is Allah?

Very often one will hear the Arabic word "Allah" being used in regards to Islam. The word "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for Almighty God, and is the same word used by Arabic speaking Christians and Jews. If one were to pick up an Arabic translation of the Bible, one would see the word "Allah" being use where the word "God" is used in English. Actually, the Arabic word for Almighty God, "Allah", is quite similar to the word for God in other Semitic languages — for example, the Hebrew word for God is "Elah". For various reasons, some non-Muslims mistakenly believe that Muslims worship a different God than Jews and Christians. This is certainly not the case, since the Pure Monotheism of Islam calls all people to the worship of the God of Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and all of the other prophets (peace be upon them). However, even though Jews, Christians and Muslims worship the same God — since there is only one true God — their concepts concerning Him differ in some significant ways.

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Who is Muhammad?
The last and final prophet that God sent to humanity was the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Muhammad explained, interpreted and lived the teachings of Islam. The Prophet Muhammad is the greatest of all prophets for many reasons, but mainly because the results of his mission have brought more people into the pure belief in One God than any other prophet. Even though other religious communities claimed to believe in One God, over time they had corrupted their beliefs by taking their prophets and saints as intercessors with Almighty God. Some religions believe their prophets to be manifestations of God, "God Incarnate" or the "Son of God". All of these false ideas lead to the creation being worshipped instead of the Creator, which contributed to the idolatrous practice of believing that Almighty God can be approached through intermediaries. In order to guard against these falsehoods, the Prophet Muhammad always emphasized that he was only a human being tasked with the preaching of God’s message. He taught Muslims to refer to him as "the Messenger of God and His Slave". To Muslims, Muhammad is the supreme example for all people — he was the exemplary prophet, statesman, military leader, ruler, teacher, neighbour husband, father and friend. Unlike other prophets and messengers, the Prophet Muhammad lived in the full light of history. Muslims don't need to have "faith" that he existed and that his teachings are preserved — they know it to be a fact. Even when his followers only numbered a few dozen, Almighty God informed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) that he had be sent as a mercy to all of mankind. Because people had distorted or forgotten God’s messages from previous prophets, God took it upon Himself to protect the message revealed to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). This was because Almighty God promised not to send another messenger after him. Since all of God’s messengers have preached the message of Islam — i.e. submission to the will of God and the worship of God alone — Muhammad is actually the last prophet of Islam, not the first.

What are the Teachings of Islam?

The foundation of the Islamic faith is belief in the Unity of God. This means to believe that there is only one Creator and Sustainer of everything in the Universe, and that nothing is divine or worthy of being worshipped except for Him.
Truly believing in the Unity of God means much more than simply believing that there is "One God" — as opposed to two, three or four. There are a number of religions that claim belief in "One God" and believe that ultimately there is only one Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Islam, however, not only insists on this, but also rejects using such words as "Lord" and "Savior" for anyone besides Almighty God. Islam also rejects the use of all intermediaries between God and Man, and insists that people approach God directly and reserve all worship for Him alone. Muslims believe that Almighty God is Compassionate, Loving and Merciful. The essence of falsehood is the claim that God cannot deal with and forgive His creatures directly. By over-emphasizing the burden of sin, as well as claiming that God cannot forgive you directly, other religions seek to get people to despair of the Mercy of God. Once they are convinced that they cannot approach God directly, people can be mislead into turning to false gods for help. These "false gods" can take various forms, such as saints, angels, or someone who is believed to be the "Son of God" or "God Incarnate".
In almost all cases, people who worship, pray to or seek help from a false god don’t consider it to be, or call it, a "god". They claim belief in One Supreme God, but claim that they pray to and worship others beside God only to get closer to Him. In Islam, there is a clear distinction between the Creator and the created. There is no ambiguity in divinity — anything that is created is not deserving of worship and only the Creator is worthy of being worshipped. Some religions falsely believe that God has become part of His creation, and this has led people to believe that they can worship something created in order to reach their Creator.
Muslims believe that even though God is Unique and beyond comprehension — He has no "Son", partners or associates. According to Muslim belief, Almighty God "does not beget nor was He begotten" — neither literally, allegorically, metaphorically, physically or metaphysically — He is Absolutely Unique and Eternal. He is in control of everything and is perfectly capable of bestowing His infinite Mercy and Forgiveness to whomever He chooses. That is why is called the All-Powerful and Most-Merciful. Almighty God has created the Universe for man, and as such wants the best for all human beings. Muslims see everything in the Universe as a sign of the Creatorship and Benevolence of Almighty God. Also, the belief in the Unity of God is not merely a metaphysical concept. It is a dynamic belief that affects ones view of humanity, society and all aspects of life. As a logical corollary to the Islamic belief in the Oneness of God, is its belief in the oneness of mankind and humanity.

What is the Qur'an?

It is the final revelation of the will of Almighty God's to all of mankind, which was conveyed through the Angel Gabriel, in Arabic, to the Prophet Muhammad in its sounds, words and meanings. The Qur’an (sometimes spelled Koran), was relayed to the Prophet's companions, which they memorized verbatim, and which has been publicly and continually recited by them and their successors until the present day. In short, the Qur'an is the book of guidance from God par excellence. The Qur'an is still memorized and taught by millions of people. The language of the Qur'an, Arabic, is still a living language to millions of people, so unlike the scriptures of other religions, the Qur'an is still read in its original language by countless millions of people. The Qur’an is a living miracle in the Arabic language; and is know to be inimitable in its style, form and spiritual impact. God's final revelation to mankind, the Qur'an, was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad over a period of 23 years. The Qur'an, in contrast to many other religious books, was always thought to be the Word of God by those who believed in it, i.e. it wasn't something decreed by a religious council many years after being written. Also, the Qur’an was recited publicly in front of both the Muslim and non-Muslim communities during the life of the Prophet Muhammad. The entire Qur'an was also completely written down in lifetime of the Prophet, and numerous companions of the Prophet memorized the entire Qur'an word-for-word as it was revealed. So unlike other scriptures, the Qur'an was always in the hands of the common believers, it was always thought to be God's word and, due to wide spread memorization, it was perfectly preserved. In regards to the teachings of the Qur'an - it is a universal scripture, and it is addressed to all of mankind, and not to a particular tribe or "chosen people". The message that it brings is nothing new, but the same message of all of the prophets - submit to Almighty God and worship Him alone. As such, God's revelation in the Qur'an focuses on teaching human beings the importance of believing in the Unity of God and framing their lives around the guidance which He has sent. Additionally, the Qur'an contains the stories of the previous prophets, such as Abraham, Noah, Moses and Jesus; as well as many commands and prohibitions from God. In modern times in which so many people are caught up in doubt, spiritual despair and "political correctness", the Qur'anic teachings offer solutions to the emptiness of our lives and the turmoil that is gripping the world today.

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How Do Muslims View the Nature of Man, the Purpose of Life and the Life Hereafter?

In the Holy Qur'an, God teaches human beings that they were created in order to worship Him, and that the basis of all true worship is God-consciousness/piety. Since the teachings of Islam encompass all aspects of life and ethics, God-consciousness is encouraged in all human affairs. Islam makes it clear that all human acts are acts of worship if they are done for God alone and in accordance to His Divine Law. As such, worship in Islam is not limited to religious rituals. The teachings of Islam act as a mercy and a healing for the human soul, and such qualities as humility, sincerity, patience and charity are strongly encouraged. Additionally, Islam condemns pride and self-righteousness, since Almighty God is the only judge of human righteousness. The Islamic view of the nature of man is also realistic and well balanced. Human beings are not believed to be inherently sinful, but are seen as equally capable of both good and evil.
Islam also teaches that faith and action go hand-in-hand. God has given people free will, and the measure of one's faith is one's deeds and actions. However, human beings have also been created weak and regularly fall into sin. This is the nature of the human being as created by God in His Wisdom, and it is not inherently "corrupt" or in need of repair. This is because the avenue of repentance is always open to all human beings, and Almighty God loves the repentant sinner more than one who does not sin at all. The true balance of an Islamic life is established by having a healthy fear of God as well as a sincere belief in His infinite Mercy. A life without fear of God leads to sin and disobedience, while believing that we have sinned so much that God will not possibly forgive us only leads to despair. In light of this, Islam teaches that: only the misguided despair of the Mercy of their Lord. Additionally, the Holy Qur'an, which was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, contains a great deal of teachings about the life hereafter and the Day of Judgment. Due to this, Muslims believe that all human beings will ultimately be judged by God for their beliefs and actions in their earthly lives. In judging human beings, Almighty God will be both Merciful and Just, and people will only be judged for what they were capable of. Suffice it to say that Islam teaches that life is a test, and that all human beings will be accountable before God. A sincere belief in the life hereafter is the key to leading a well-balanced life and moral. Otherwise, life is viewed as an end in itself, which causes human beings to become more selfish, materialistic and immoral.

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any questions?

[norman]

Several...

1) Why do you persist on just printing propoganda over and over again?

Repeating yourself does not reinforce the idea? Merely suggests that what you have written is the sole source of your beliefs - which reduces your credibility and in fact disadvantages your argument.

2) Where is your evidence?

Regurgitating the 'definitions' of your religion isn't evidence. In fact are they 'definitions' at all? Inventing words and defining them does not make what you are describing exist. Without physical, probative evidence - ie something unique to the test, there is no debate here.

3) Why are you posting in the first place?

I am keen to understand your motives. This is a forum for those running student secular, humanist and atheist societies, ie people who have spent the majority of their adult lives investigating and debunking religion. What are you hoping to achieve?

[grammar king mike]

Well your latest question-based posts I find marginally more palatable than the others. At least they're better set out, and general information about Islam rather than "we're right, you're wrong" could at least possibly be useful.

However, leading with the part about Islam meaning 'submitting and surrendering yourself to Almighty God' was a bad idea. I have a problem with that.

[norman]

However, leading with the part about Islam meaning 'submitting and surrendering yourself to Almighty God' was a bad idea. I have a problem with that.

Me too, lol.

[MOSLEM]

Norman, grammar king mike:

thank you .

give me any queations about and I will answer.

OK

give me your questions. i am ready.
thank you

[Ellis Pugh]

Norman has given you three, which I'd like to hear your answers to- so start with them.

[grammar king mike]

Yeah I held back asking my questions until you'd answered norman's.

[MOSLEM]

OK
thak you .

Where is your evidence?
read this:

1-The Quran on Human Embryonic Development:
In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:
We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... 1 (Quran, 23:12-14)

Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others

The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.
The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage4 (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week.5 Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood

So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqah stage.

The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”6


How could Muhammad have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after Muhammad ). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.7

Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore8 is one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of anatomy and embryology and is the author of the book entitled The Developing Human, which has been translated into eight languages. This book is a scientific reference work and was chosen by a special committee in the United States as the best book authored by one person. Dr. Keith Moore is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. There, he was Associate Dean of Basic Sciences at the Faculty of Medicine and for 8 years was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy. In 1984, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has directed many international associations, such as the Canadian and American Association of Anatomists and the Council of the Union of Biological Sciences.

In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Moore said: “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God.”9 (To view the RealPlayer video of this comment click here ).

Consequently, Professor Moore was asked the following question: “Does this mean that you believe that the Quran is the word of God?” He replied: “I find no difficulty in accepting this.”10

During one conference, Professor Moore stated: “....Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah (what Muhammad said, did, or approved of). The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge. The intensive studies of the Quran and hadeeth (reliably transmitted reports by the Prophet Muhammad’s companions of what he said, did, or approved of) in the last four years have revealed a system for classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D. Although Aristotle, the founder of the science of embryology, realized that chick embryos developed in stages from his studies of hen’s eggs in the fourth century B.C., he did not give any details about these stages. As far as it is known from the history of embryology, little was known about the staging and classification of human embryos until the twentieth century. For this reason, the descriptions of the human embryo in the Quran cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century. The only reasonable conclusion is: these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God. He could not have known such details because he was an illiterate man with absolutely no scientific training

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Footnotes:


(1) Please note that what is between these special brackets ... in this web site is only a translation of the meaning of the Quran. It is not the Quran itself, which is in Arabic.

(2) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 8.

(3) Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 36.

(4) Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, pp. 37-38.

(5) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 65.

(6) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 8.

(7) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 9.

(8) Note: The occupations of all the scientists mentioned in this web site were last updated in 1997.

(9) The reference for this saying is This is the Truth (videotape). For a copy of this videotape, please visit this page.

(10) This is the Truth (videotape).

(11) This is the Truth (videotape). For a copy, see footnote no. 9

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2-Biblical Prophecies on the Advent of
Muhammad , the Prophet of Islam


The Biblical ( as you called)prophecies on the advent of the Prophet Muhammad are evidence of the truth of Islam for people who believe in the Bible.


In Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told him: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-19).1

From these verses we conclude that the prophet in this prophecy must have the following three characteristics:

1) That he will be like Moses.

2) That he will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites.

3) That God will put His words in to the mouth of this prophet and that he will declare what God commands him.

Let us examine these three characteristics in more depth:1) A prophet like Moses:
There were hardly any two prophets who were so much alike as Moses and Muhammad . Both were given a comprehensive law and code of life. Both encountered their enemies and were victorious in miraculous ways. Both were accepted as prophets and statesmen. Both migrated following conspiracies to assassinate them. Analogies between Moses and Jesus overlook not only the above similarities but other crucial ones as well. These include the natural birth, the family life, and death of Moses and Muhammad but not of Jesus. Moreover Jesus was regarded by his followers as the Son of God and not exclusively as a prophet of God, as Moses and Muhammad were and as Muslims believe Jesus was. So, this prophecy refers to the Prophet Muhammad and not to Jesus, because Muhammad is more like Moses than Jesus.

Also, one notices from the Gospel of John that the Jews were waiting for the fulfillment of three distinct prophecies. The first was the coming of Christ. The second was the coming of Elijah. The third was the coming of the Prophet. This is obvious from the three questions that were posed to John the Baptist: “Now this was John’s testimony, when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Christ.” They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.” (John 1:19-21). If we look in a Bible with cross-references, we will find in the marginal notes where the words “the Prophet” occur in John 1:21, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18:18.2 We conclude from this that Jesus Christ is not the prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:18.

2) From the brothers of the Israelites:
Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac (Genesis 21). Ishmael became the grandfather of the Arab nation, and Isaac became the grandfather of the Jewish nation. The prophet spoken of was not to come from among the Jews themselves, but from among their brothers, i.e. the Ishmaelites. Muhammad , a descendant of Ishmael, is indeed this prophet.
Also, Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the servant of God, His “chosen one” and “messenger” who will bring down a law. “He will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on earth. In his law the islands will put their hope.” (Isaiah 42:4). Verse 11, connects that awaited one with the descendants of Kedar. Who is Kedar? According to Genesis 25:13, Kedar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad .

3) God will put His words in the mouth of this prophet:
The words of God (the Holy Quran) were truly put into Muhammad’s mouth. God sent the Angel Gabriel to teach Muhammad the exact words of God (the Holy Quran) and asked him to dictate them to the people as he heard them. The words are therefore not his own. They did not come from his own thoughts, but were put into his mouth by the Angel Gabriel. During the life time of Muhammad , and under his supervision, these words were then memorized and written by his companions.
Also, this prophecy in Deuteronomy mentioned that this prophet will speak the words of God in the name of God. If we looked to the Holy Quran, we will find that all its chapters, except Chapter 9, are preceded or begin with the phrase, “In the Name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.”


Another indication (other than the prophecy in Deuteronomy) is that Isaiah ties the messenger connected with Kedar with a new song (a scripture in a new language) to be sung to the Lord (Isaiah 42:10-11). This is mentioned more clearly in the prophecy of Isaiah: “and another tongue, will he speak to this people” (Isaiah 28:11 KJV). Another related point, is that the Quran was revealed in sections over a span of twenty-three years. It is interesting to compare this with Isaiah 28 which speaks of the same thing, “For it is: Do and do, do and do, rule on rule, rule on rule; a little here, a little there.” (Isaiah 28:10).

Note that God has said in the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18, “If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy, 18:19). This means that whoever believes in the Bible must believe in what this prophet says, and this prophet is the Prophet Muhammad .

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3-Miracles Performed by
the Prophet Muhammad




Miracles Performed by
the Prophet Muhammad
Many miracles were performed by the Prophet Muhammad by God’s permission. These miracles were witnessed by many people. For example:


n When the unbelievers in Makkah asked the Prophet Muhammad to show them a miracle, he showed them the splitting of the moon.1

n Another miracle was the flowing of water through Muhammad’s fingers when his companions got thirsty and had no water except a little in a vessel. They came to him and told him that they had no water to make ablution nor to drink except for what was in the vessel. So, Muhammad put his hand in the vessel, and the water started gushing out between his fingers. So, they drank and made ablution. They were one thousand five hundred companions.2

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Footnotes:

(1) Narrated in Saheeh Al-Bukhari, #3637, and Saheeh Muslim, #2802.

(2) Narrated in Saheeh Al-Bukhari, #3576, and Saheeh Muslim, #1856.

[MOSLEM]

and then ,what?

[MOSLEM]

I will see you in sunday or monday.

goodbye

[Chris Worfolk]

My question is this. Why did Muhammad sleep with a 9 year old child?

[MOSLEM]

My question is this. Why did Muhammad sleep with a 9 year old child?




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Name of God the Merciful

. Commenting on what they say, like marriage from him and handed the Lady Aisha, is the nine-year-old then and it is entering the tenth, I would say it is strange starting their denial of the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him the legitimate marriage of Ms. Aisha blessings By God and they accept that the prophets of the Bible practicing incest length of the Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him, Judas, and weighing and kill not only unjustly, but to reach the adultery story of the Prophet, peace be upon him Dawood's wife, Korea and they have alcohol Prophet Noah and Lot Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him Above all, they Abdo Botha Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him, which Solomon Abdul idols to appease his wives heathens. (). We (Muslims acquitted of all the prophets of God have peace of these deficiencies and does not recognize or acknowledge the validity of any of these stories, but I heard here argue Christians).
Islamic point of view and say that God reconciled in this great wisdom, otherwise we would not have reached this image of Islam that we have today. . The marriage of the Prophet Mohammad, peace of Ms. Aisha bint Abu Bakr, a bead show and his insistence on them to convey to her illness to die in there and prove it for the love of confirmation of her father, may Allah be pleased with him until the last moment of his life in God and prayers for safety , And in response to all this land in bad who refuse the right of Abu Bakr, Omar, may Allah be pleased with him. If this marriage of great wisdom archived Islam until today.

و: And now, in terms of mentality to look into the matter, and here I am wondering why that prevents a woman marries at the age of ten, and say that that does not deviate from the following points:
. First - steeplechase physiology.
ثانياً . Secondly - no legal or mental.

. First - physiological inhibitions.
. Sorts of physiological and I are two particular women and the second man with a special view of old age (I'm here I mean Allah peace be upon him specifically). As I am not urging ask Ms. Aisha in the tenth Are not menstruating women in the age of ten (note that the age of menarche In the country's weather is warm women menstruating at an early age and may be checked Encyclopedias doctor to find out the average age of menarche for each state), what does it mean to women menstruation is not this mean that had been bleached starting to work and this means that it is time to vaccinate those eggs, so To complete the process of reproduction by God Almighty and the Almighty Khaliq, including Alim and is fit to create, to start in this age, and then this not mean that the body had begun to sort out hormones own sexual desire and that women had begun to interfere in the internal conflict between what caused these hormones Nature of desire and the reality of society in the modern era of the delay of marriage - I would like to explain to us that Christians are justified delaying marriage.
و . And the second is the private men say that life is no objection to the marriage and no objection over the history of marriage and thus not deemed strange one and I'm not Contemporaries attributed such as those suffering from physical and sexual weakness and they think that this is applicable to Everyone, and I'm here to remind them of men in the era of Prophet Mohammad, peace and before and after they were walking and driving armies and are above the age of seventy years and was the messenger of God and prayers for the safety of moving armies and lead to battles hundreds of miles away from Concentrated in Medina, and mention here that the conduct of armies in that era was not as it is today understand they were walking on foot half a day and ride the beasts and then the other half in the battle with swords up in weight to over seven kilograms and grams of eminent and struggling Most of the day and this is beyond our young people in this age. و . These facts nullify the proceedings of each defendant not suited to marriage because of age. و ل. And we have evidence in the modern era of big difference in health and sex between people of the ability of cities and villages and people of the mountains. ثم What we see in our daily lives proves that the difference in age between the couple claimed to understanding her husband in this case correctly recognizes the husband of opinion and advice because of its experience and knowledge of life, and lower unit debates resulting from both spouses thought that the most desirable and more note of affairs Life.

. II - legal or mental barriers.
أ- . A - contraceptive mentality - have said they did not guide the small and could not decide, and I say, when rationalize Look around and you'll find that young people in the age of five and did not lead the century and are in need of guidance and with the passage of generations matter becomes worse, Even at the age of twenty-fifth or more of them and that was the sensible young adults understand the need to draw parents to choose good husband or wife. و. Accordingly, as long as it will appear to parents in the ninth or ninth century in the ninth and better maintenance of chastity and of society where the fittest will focus effort on the young man or what the case is fit and if society rather than to dispel the strain that does not fit in the shadow illusions and suffer Youth in adolescence. هن. Therefore, we find that the veterans and they should Rushdie and creativity while at an early age when Imam Al-Bukhari, who has become a reference and is in fifth years of age, and Osama bin Zaid, who led the Muslim army and is in sixth years of age and there are many names that do not accommodate Area to put here.
-. B - legal obstacles - might say that the law prohibits marriage So I would say that this law updated and that the authors of this law are Europeans and we Muslims do not take our laws from the alcohol and debauchery, they have people in the daytime theoreticians put laws and studies at night and people Alcohol and prostitution and the exchange of wives of understanding on the legality and ethics are not eligible because of them derived any law or the law of social life. ا. But that could take them purely physical science or physical systems such as traffic, for example, but are not allowed to tamper with in the privacy of our society and patterns of our lives we must follow the laws approved by the modest social and fits its control and serve us. . The laws of those people who allowed anyone homosexuality but admitted sex marriage and one of the strangest marriages of their leave dogs do not take them only what they agreed when we started this was where I agree.



Sheikh Salman is to return Zakaria Botros :




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Suspicion marriage Aisha, may Allah be pleased by a small
: Sheikh individual may God preserve him, saying:
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The Sheikh was part of God and the best penalty collected by the Supreme paradise and therefore God Shirk and idolaters and defeats in their words and paintings, manuscripts and keeping our supporters religion
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[MOSLEM]

I will answer your questions tomorrow or at 20\9 Or the like

goodbye

remember at 20\9\2008 Or the like

goodbye

[Chris Worfolk]

Heh, it's not just me thinking it right? :p

[MOSLEM]

Heh, it's not just me thinking it right? :p

ok at 15\9 \2008

[MOSLEM]

My question is this. Why did Muhammad .... 9 year old child?
It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into "women", then they get married off. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage.
That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many third world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.


Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!


So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
The pedophilia in the bible was quite different, because girls were raped at 3-years of age by Moses and his men.

Also, in Exodus 21:7-11 as further elaborated on below, girls were sold off as slave girls by their own fathers to other men. So most certainly, no one is qualified to call the Prophet of Islam a pedophile!

*** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.
*** Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.



Young girls in the Bible and Jewish Talmud. Let's look at two main points in the Bible:
1- 3-year old slave girls were forced into sex under the Mosaic Law in the Bible.
2- Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible.

1- 3-year old slave girls were forced into sex under the Mosaic Law in the Bible:
Pedophilia with 3-year old slave girls in the Bible!
Forcing 3-year old slave girls into sex during the Mosaic Law in the Bible! (click here)

Is the GOD of Israel a pedophile? Quick side Note: Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [among them were virgin girls]."
Even though GOD Almighty's share of the 32 virgin girls is ************************phoric, meaning that He didn't come down and have sex with them, but if any wants to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile or womanizer for marrying (his best friend's daughter with both her parents' approval) a young girl and marrying multiple women throughout his life, then he should not only call his Biblical Prophets as such, but also the GOD of Israel Himself!


Also today, the Jewish law for marriage sets the age of consent for females at 11. (Consent is only one way of marriage) I do not know if modern Jewish law still allows (in theory) betrothal by intercourse as it was practiced in ancient times.

Thirty years ago, the renowned sexologist R.E.L. Masters and Allan Edwardes said in their study of Afro-Asian sexual expression (_The Cradle of Erotica_, Julian Press, New York:1962) said, "Today, in many parts of North Africa, Arabia, and India, girls are wedded and bedded between the ages of five and nine; and no self-respecting female remains unmarried beyond the age of puberty."


**** Also, the age consent in the US and Europe only 100 years ago for girls' marriage was as little as 10, and some popular men figures married little girls who were as young as their daughters. I have provided the Western links and proofs.
By the way, please visit: X-Rated Pornography in the Bible. The Bible literally says that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine".
Also visit: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.

2- Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible:

Exodus 21:7-11
7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.
First of all, did the daughter have any choice to be sold off by her father, married off by her master to either himself or his son? No!
Also, the fact that the master can either marry her or marry her off to his son, means that MOST LIKELY, SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER'S AGE and younger than his son!! So he's probably at least 30+ years older than her. Yet, he himself (her father's age or even MUCH older) can marry her.
Again, please visit: X-Rated Pornography in the Bible. The Bible literally says that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine".
Also visit: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.
Also, the fact that there is no AGE LIMIT to how girls in the Bible were sold off and married off to other men, WITHOUT ANY CHOICE, who were much much older than them as also the case with the Biblical Prophets who married 100s of wives each clearly proves the hypocrisy of some Christians who attack Islam through Aisha's very young age, while they clearly ignore the same fact in their own Bible. Here is a sample of the 100s of wives of the Biblical Prophets:
In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.
In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.
In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.



Let us look at the following narration:
Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234)"
Notice here that Aisha's mother and the Muslim women back then were ok with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. When a girl's body starts showing up (her breasts and her height and physical size), then she would be ready for marriage.

[MOSLEM]

I will be completed in dialogue with you at 14\9 \ 2008

[norman]

You have yet to justify the actual event...

If you are claiming that it was acceptable because it happened a long time ago then you are saying that either those rules are no longer applicable now - suggesting that the rules are arbitrary and not all encomapssing, or that the god in question (Allah in this case) didn't know that tiems were going to change - again with far reaching connotations.

Which is it?

Is it acceptable now?

On a side note, you quote the bible and talmud as evidence that it happened in Christian and Jewish tradition too. You do realise that we on this site reject those as evidence too don't you?

A nine year old does not have the ability to choose their mate - hence why it is illegal and immoral for any society to condone any act involving minors. Just because a lot of people do it does not make it right.

You can say what you want about tradition and those were the timesthey lived in, but it is still wrong to forcefully have sex (as in no informed consent) with a minor. Unless you are extolling a subjective morality, ie that morals can only be judged withina social, subjective framework. If you are, then you are shooting yourself in the foot theologically and if you are not then you are disabling your argument for god!

[grammar king mike]

You do know the Old Testament "God of Israel" as you call it is your God too, don't you?

Here's my question. You call the Koran the word of God. Which one? There are hundreds and hundreds of variants, even in the Arabic, and yet the Koran is supposed to be literally the word of God as spoken to Muhammed. There are also many suras where it's obvious God is not the one speaking, but it is someone else. How do you explain these variants?

[Chris Worfolk]

Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!

So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.

So if I OFFERED you my nine year old daughter you would happily take her?

[grammar king mike]

How about this. You agree that Islam is about surrendering yourself to God, do you not? That God actually decides what's going to happen, everything is predetermined by God, right? I can quote a few suras from the Big Guy himself if you'd like.

You also agree that unbelievers will be burned in the blaze, do you not? So my question is, why do you worship a God that creates people purely to have them not believe in him (not even willingly, it's him who's doing it) and roast eternally in hell? Pretty sadistic isn't it?

[MOSLEM]

Solutions because of Ramadan and Eid and other university and I should wait for response to 1 \ 10 to answer your questions, and I ask you to write in English because I classical Arabic

[MOSLEM]

I will be completed in dialogue with you at 1\10 \ 2008 Or similar deadline

[Chris Worfolk]

Looking forward to it ;).

[norman]

Should it really take this long for us to see the light?

Seriously if Allah wanted us to be Muslims then wouldn't he just make us Muslim?

[MOSLEM]

You have yet to justify the actual event...

If you are claiming that it was acceptable because it happened a long time ago then you are saying that either those rules are no longer applicable now - suggesting that the rules are arbitrary and not all encomapssing, or that the god in question (Allah in this case) didn't know that tiems were going to change - again with far reaching connotations.

Which is it?

Is it acceptable now?
!

please reed my answers :

Also, the age consent in the US and Europe only 100 years ago for girls' marriage was as little as 10, and some popular men figures married little girls who were as young as their daughters. I have provided the Western links and proofs.

Notice here that Aisha's mother and the Muslim women back then were ok with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. When a girl's body starts showing up (her breasts and her height and physical size), then she would be ready for marriage.

[MOSLEM]

You do know the Old Testament "God of Israel" as you call it is your God too, don't you?

Here's my question. You call the Koran the word of God. Which one? There are hundreds and hundreds of variants, even in the Arabic, and yet the Koran is supposed to be literally the word of God as spoken to Muhammed. There are also many suras where it's obvious God is not the one speaking, but it is someone else. How do you explain these variants?

give me the suras!!!!

and thank you

[MOSLEM]

So if I OFFERED you my nine year old daughter you would happily take her?
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ask he (mohammad)

thank you

[norman]

please reed my answers :

Also, the age consent in the US and Europe only 100 years ago for girls' marriage was as little as 10, and some popular men figures married little girls who were as young as their daughters. I have provided the Western links and proofs.

Notice here that Aisha's mother and the Muslim women back then were ok with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. When a girl's body starts showing up (her breasts and her height and physical size), then she would be ready for marriage.

Yeah, but rational people don't see this as ok...

I use this argument too many times and I wish I didn't have to...

Just becasue other people do it does not make it OK!!!!!

Mohammed was wrong to take a wife so young, she doesn't belong to her parents so it doesn't matter if they were "alright" with it. The female body and more improtantly the mind is not mature enough until the mid teens to handle the pressures and demands of marriage and raising a family!

Mohammed was a paedophile, that much is true. Just remember that today's standards are the only stabdards by which we can judge anything. Perhaps there is an argument that we can use standards from days gone by to exlplain and understand events from those times but we cannot judge anything using those standards.

Allah does not exist, if he did then I would be struck down for saying these things and seeing as I am still typing either a) he doesn't care - which basically emans the end of extremist Islam cos if their god don't care why should they? or b) he doesn't exist...

[Ellis Pugh]

More to the point, Islam falls short on two big challenges:

Theological: Try making Allah fit to the 'Problem of Evil'. Not easy huh?

Moral: Three words- The Satanic Verses. No add Fatwah and Jihad to that list too.

[MOSLEM]

I am suffering from weakness in English, I went and asked one, and then I went to answer another question

goodbye in 14\9\2008

[Chris Worfolk]

Don't forget all the suffering from the weakness of scripture ;).

[norman]

Oh, and evolution...

Explain that one...

[MOSLEM]

Don't forget all the suffering from the weakness of scripture ;).

thank you .
I convey my understanding of Islam, but of writing in Mandarin weak Alingeleip

[MOSLEM]

More to the point, Islam falls short on two big challenges:

Theological: Try making Allah fit to the 'Problem of Evil'. Not easy huh?

Moral: Three words- The Satanic Verses. No add Fatwah and Jihad to that list too.

1 - spread Islam by force or by calling? وما الدليل على ذلك ؟ The proof of this?

2 - وإذا كان قد انتشر بالدعوة فلماذا وقعت الحروب بين المسلمين وغيرهم ؟ 2 - If the call has spread, why wars between Muslims and others?

: To answer the first question we in the strength and insistence that Islam did spread the sword, but the call spread, and the evidence put one after another in a series of verses of the Koran, and then in a series of events of history so that all doubt area:

) . Then the Holy Koran, a Muslim Constitution to be followed, it was clear in several verses that call key to Islam, and that no one shall be compelled to change his religion, the Almighty: - no compulsion in religion of the majority may show canceled (1).

. * (Margin) * (1) see we wrote on this subject in the first part of the "Encyclopedia of Islamic history and Islamic civilization." 256 . (1) Al-Baqarah verse 256.

. The main signs of this kind in the last pages to demonstrate the freedom of religion for Muslims. ( * ) (*)

- ا- Except to the path of your Lord with wisdom and good advice

( 1 ) . - Your own religion, your religion

( 2 ) . - You what I just communication, we account

( 3 ) . (3). - - But you stated male, I have Bmsitr

( 4 ) . (4). وأما سلسلة التاريخ فترينا بوضوح أن الإسلام سلك طريقه بالدعوة ، متبعا هذه الآيات البينات ، ومبتعدا كل البعد عن القسوة . The series history Fterina clearly that Islam is the way the call service, following these verses evidence, and away from being harsh.

وإلى القارئ بيان ذلك : And to indicate that the reader:

1 - . 1 - When the Prophet was in Mecca, and when he did not call a single weapon with no money, income group of great men like Abu Bakr and Osman Saad bin Abi Waqas, Talha Zubair and then Omar bin al-Khattab and Hamza Bin Abdul Muttalib.


فهل يمكن أن نقول أن هؤلاء دخلوا بالقوة ؟ Can we say that they entered by force? وأين القوة في ذلك الوقت ؟ Where is the force at the time?

2 - 2 - and persecuted Muslims Quraish persecution or cruel, and Mohammed and his followers inflicted kinds of suffering, in the midst of this suffering when he was with Muhammad and Muslims to Mecca Mglobin them vulnerable, the people of the city seeking Viatniconh of Islam and claiming it relatives and their families, can say that Islam was spread by force between The city's population?

3 - جاء . 3 - The Crusaders to the Middle twice during the Abbasid Caliphate and the Fatimid caliphate to try to eliminate Islam, and if Islam attracts crowds of them * (margin) * (1)-Nahl verse 125. ( 2 ) سورة الكافرون الآية السادسة . (2) Al-sixth verse Unbelievers. ( 3 ) سورة الرعد الآية 42 . (3) Al-thunder verse 42. ( 4 ) سورة الغاشية الآيتان 21 - 22 . (4) Al-Algachep Alaitan 21 - 22. ( * ) فيدخلون ويحاربون في صفوف المسلمين . (*), Enter and fighting among Muslims.

this question is easy to easy we have in the past and some will be recalled following an exhaustive summary. 1 - - Self-defense: Decides history that Muslims had been granted immigration fight, was beaten Ammar, Bilal and Mohammed Yasser, beaten and Abu Bakr, and Yasser died under torture, they did not raise their hands to repel an attack, which occurred on them. ولكن . But Oserfoa infidels in their aggression, and reached a decision to kill Mohammed.


وو. And put their plan to implement their decision before migrating to the city to rid the Arabian Peninsula of Islam and Muslims. ) . It was necessary to defend the Muslims themselves have authorized them to defend God, saying: "those who authorized the fighting they have been wronged and that God has power to victory. Evicted from their homes without the right to say only God" (1). . It is clear from the verse to the one look that Islam does not like the fighting, act (authorized) based voice, and make the perpetrator when he was based voice is God Almighty, was built for an unknown act because God is not - as I understand - to be named Karim related to the authorization fight.

The actor then Vice deleted appreciation: (fighting) any authorized the fighting, did not mention Vice actor also because the word (fighting), Vice-active instead of authorizing a reason (they have been wronged) has called on Muslims to say, now this verse: it Not enough to fight the infidels, because the spirit of peace, though tend to be Olvazaa authorize fight. و : Did not start real fighting between Muslims and others only after the other landed verse:

. Is the "Fight for the sake of God those who fight against you, but do not Allah loveth not aggressors (2)" Although the explicit authorization here, however, conditional on the situation of the defense, non-aggression, aggression caused indignation of God. * ( ها40 . * (Margin) * (1) Al-Hajj Alaitan 36 - 40. ( 2 ) (2) Al-Baqarah verse 190. ( * ) . (*) And this was the main cause of the fighting is self-defense, honor and property.

. There appears to Balhabcp important issue related to the country which is not far from the Arabian Peninsula and Muslims since the early era of Islam, even before they migrated to the migration of the city. والروم . The important question is that Muslims did not attack Abyssinia, because of ill Abyssinia did not affect them, even if it was intended to propagate Islam by force attacked, it is less powerful than the Persians and the rum.

قد . The sea is said to have protected them, and the answer is easy, the King of Muslims freely attacked by strong Constantinople, which took control of the main islands of the Mediterranean, but failed to turn Habcp, what was the only Muslim military defense and response to the attack. 2 - . 2 - Providing advocacy and the opportunity for the weak who want to embrace, they were threatened by the Islamic call, and the Quraish take all means to eliminate it, and then there was a lot of Arabs and Islam tend to want to enter it, but they were afraid to take them down, including the predecessors of Islam Torment and abuse, authorized God His Prophet and the believers to fight Qatlhm, and respond strongly sword attack which may take one of them, the Almighty said: What you are fighting in in the way of Allah and the vulnerable men and women (1). 3 - . 3 - conservative Islamic nation that Tdkha Persians and the Roman armies, before Islam there were not an Arab nation, but there were divergent warring Arab tribes, it was not the Persians and the Roman residents account for the Arabs as the Arabs within the island Istron hardly be related to conflict, and for this Persians and the Roman blind sight of the Arabian Peninsula because they did not have unity could become a threat to neighboring countries in the north. * ( : 75 . * (Margin) * (1) Nisa verse: 75. ( * ) (*)


فلما جاء . When Islam came to secure some Arabs and Kafr by others, and the violent conflict in the Arabian Peninsula between Muslims and non-Muslims (Quraish and Jews), at this stage not interested in Persian and Roman is also the new religion and they said the movement by Arab and killed by Arabs and Jews, she thought The type of internal conflict is soon to die.

[MOSLEM]

Questions & Answers About Islam

Q: I heard something about the 5 pillars of Islam and the 6 pillars of faith. Could you elaborate more on these pillars?
A: You are right! Islam has two different types of pillars: The pillars of Islam and the pillars of faith in Islam. The 5 pillars of Islam are:
1. Al-Shahadatan" the testimony that there is no God but Allah and Mohammad is Messenger of Allah,
2. performing prayer (Salah),
3. giving Alms (Zakah),
4. fasting (Sawm),
5. and performing Pilgrimage (Hajj) for those who are able.

The 6 pillars of Faith in Islam are:
1. The belief in One God, Allah,
2. the belief in His Angels,
3. the belief in His Scriptures,
4. the belief in His Messengers,
5. the belief in Judgment Day.
6. and the belief in the divine decree, the good and the bad of it.

Q: Who is Mohammad?
A: Mohammad (peace be upon him) was born in Mecca 570 CE. At age forty he was elected by Allah to convey His Message to mankind. The Message is to worship Allah alone, not ascribing partners with Him. Mohammad (peace be upon him) spent the last 23 years of his life conveying God's Message to all people. Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) died at age 63 and his resting place lies in the city of Medina in Saudi Arabia. He is Allah’s final Messenger to mankind.
Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) came to re-institute Islam, the religion of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them). The following prophecy is obtained from the Bible regarding Mohammad's cometh from Arabia. In HABAKKUK 3:3 “God (Jesus) came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise." The place of Teman is the area located southeast of Palestine, and Paran is the area of Mecca in Saudi Arabia where the Holy One (Mohammad peace be upon him) came from.

Q: What is the deal with the term(s) "Mohammadeen", "Muhammedanism" or Mohammedans in Islam?
A: There are no such terms at all. Other religions have been named after their founders or after the community in which the religion was prospered. For example, Christianity has been named after Christ. Judaism after the tribe of Judah, and Buddhism after Buddha. Westerners falsely gave the name "Muhammedanism" or Mohammadeen" to Islam after Mohammad (peace be upon him) and also called his followers "Mohammedans". However the terms “Islam” and “Muslims” are actually found in the Qur’an, the final revelation of Allah. (see «27:31»), («3:19») & («22:78»).

Q: Who is Satan and what is his name in Arabic?
A: Satan is an evil being that is focussed on tempting and misguiding mankind away from the religion of Allah. His name in Arabic is Iblis and also by the name of "Shaytaan" (which means Devil). He is from the creation known as the "jinn" or as it is commonly known in English as “spirits”.

[MOSLEM]

Questions & Answers About Islam


Q: Why does Satan despise humans and desire their destruction?
A: Satan was a mighty and distinguished creature that was a servant of Allah. However when Allah created Adam, Allah honoured him by commanding the angels and Satan, to prostrate to Adam as a sign of respect and not as a sign of worship. All of them prostrated to Adam except Satan, who was created with freewill and decided to disobey Allah. Allah asked him, “What made you not prostrate to Adam and disobey my commandment?” Satan replied, “I am better than Adam, you created him from clay and created me from fire.” Allah cursed Satan and Satan vowed to destroy Adam and his descendants forever.

Q: I am still confused, I thought Satan was an angel like Gabriel and he has no free will but to worship God?
A: False. If Satan was an angel, then we wouldn't have any problems with him at all. Angels are a special creation of Allah. He created angels from divine light and do not have free will in doing things but to worship God and obey his commandments. Satan, on the other hand, is a Jinn, and like mankind, Satan and the "jinnkind" have free will in their actions; free will of doing good and free will of doing bad. Ref. QURAN «(18:50)»

Q: Is it true that Adam was the first messenger of Allah?
A: Yes, Adam had the responsibility to convey Allah’s message and laws to his descendants. From the beginning, Adam's message to the first generation of mankind was to worship the One True God, Allah alone.

[MOSLEM]

Questions & Answers About Islam



Q: Why did God send messengers, and why not instead communicate with us directly?
A: Allah created us, placed us on Earth and gave us this beautiful life. He gave us intellect, reason and the gift of choice. So this life is a test from Him to see which of us believes, is thankful and obedient to Him. Now if Allah revealed Himself directly to us, there would be no test as none of us would reject Him. If this was the case there would be no need for us to live on Earth, as we may as well all be living in paradise. But rather we are here – even though Allah has knowledge of all things – to see who will believe and submit to Him and who will disbelieve and reject Him.
In addition to this, if we look at the nature of Allah, He is able to do all things that are Holy and Godly. So it is not befitting for Him to come to Earth and communicate to us in this manner. An example of what I mean is, as humans we manufacture appliances for specific purposes. For example, a tape recorder is designed and manufactured by humans. Now it has never been suggested that in order to understand what is good for the tape recorder, or to communicate with it, that the manufacturer (human) should become a tape recorder himself. Rather the manufacturer publishes an instruction manual on the recorder. In this respect, human beings are also complex and we too have a Designer and a Manufacturer. So we wouldn’t expect our Designer to come to Earth as one of us to communicate to us in this manner. Rather He revealed the “instruction manual” for mankind and chose messengers, who were ideal examples to be followed and who would explain the “manual” from Allah.

Q: How many prophets and messengers did God send to mankind?
A: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told us approximately 124,000 prophets and messengers were sent to mankind. The Qur’an lists 25 of the most popular ones. They are: Adam, Enoch (Idris), Noah, Hud, Salih, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Lot, Jacob (Yaqub), Joseph (Yusuf), Shu'aib, Job (Ayyob), Moses (Musa), Aaron (Haroon), Ezekiel (Dhul-Kifl), David (Dawood), Solomon (Sulaiman), Elias, Elisha (El-Yasa), Jonah (Yunus), Zechariah, John (Yahya), Jesus, and Mohammad, peace be upon them all.

[MOSLEM]

Questions & Answers About Islam


: Are you telling me both Moses and Jesus were Muslims? If so, prove it and I would like to see something from the Bible in this regard?
A: Both Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them) were Muslims, since both had conveyed the very same Message - "Submission and surrendering" to the One True God.
Here is the proof from the Bible:
Moses said: ‘"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is ONE Lord."’ (DEUTERONOMY 6:4). Approximately 1500 years later Jesus said: ‘"...The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is ONE Lord." ’(MARK 12:29).
Of course Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) came along approximately 600 years later, bringing identical message again: «"And your God is ONE God: There is no God but He" »(The QURAN 2:163)

Q: I am still confused, if Mohammad was to be God's final and most glorified Prophet, how come we don't see his name in the Bible?
A: Mohammad's name is indeed mentioned in the original Bible manuscripts. The word "Mahmad" is found in the original Hebrew manuscript and it means the "desired one", or the "glorified one". In the 15th century, exactly in 1539, "Great Bible" was the first and official English translated bible to be authorized for public use, and when the Bible was translated to the English language, many words and expressions were translated differently and sometimes omitted altogether, including the word "Mahmad" which is the name of Prophet Mohammad, (peace be upon him). Here is the verse in the Bible: ‘"And I (God) will shake all nations, and the "desire one" of all nations shall come." ’HAGGI 2:7
Also in the Bible, God is saying to Moses: ‘“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.” ’(Deuteronomy 18:18-19)
Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was similar to Moses (peace be upon him) and he was the only prophet from whose mouth the words of God were spoken (Qur’an). Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) spoke in God's name all the time. Also in Isaiah 51:4, it is said that there will be a new law for all the people. Also, in Isaiah 66:20, it was made clear that the prophet would come from the BRETHREN, not children of the Israel. (i.e. the Arabs)

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Questions & Answers About Islam

Are you telling me, all other religions are bogus and Islam is the only true religion?
A: Well, isn't that the case with all religions!? Every religion claims to be the right one and others are wrong. Islam is the belief in One God - Allah, the Creator of all things. Islam doesn't believe in the "middleman" fallacy as the case with many religions including Christianity. In Christianity, to be saved you have to believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) as the Son of God, and without such confession and belief in Jesus, you're most definitely going to Hellfire. Islam, on the other hand, declares that believing in One God, and that Mohammad is His messenger, and obeying God's laws and His prophet's doctrine is the only passport to Heaven.

Q: Is it really sensible that God will reward Heaven only to Muslims and punish others that can easily add up to millions or even billions of people of various religions?
A: Yes it is very sensible. If you read both the Bible and the Qur’an you will uncover that God severely punished the unbelievers and the wicked people throughout the history of mankind. That includes the people of Prophet Noah (peace be upon him), the people of Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him), Lot, Moses (peace be upon them), etc... Numbers don't mean a thing in the eyes of God and that shouldn't be considered as an exception at all. Only faith counts and not numbers.

Q: But what about people in our time! We don't know anything about Islam and Mohammad! Would that be considered against us on Judgment Day?
A: Yes it will be considered against you. Before the coming of Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him), God vowed not to punish people or hold them responsible without sending messengers. Unlike Moses & Jesus (peace be upon him), Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was very distinct since he was sent to all mankind with God's final message before Judgment Day. Everybody, the least, has heard of Mohammad's name. We live in the information age, and within our fingertips, using computers or TVs, we can learn just about anything including religions. The Prophet (peace be upon him) also told us that everyone of us is born with a natural inclination to worship God alone, the Almighty Allah, but many factors have tendency to force a person to deviate from the right path such as: Satan's influence, Parents, Society, etc.

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Questions & Answers About Islam

Why can't Muslims accept the term "Son of God", even though it is in the Bible and referring to Jesus?
A: The term "Son of God" was used metaphorically speaking to those who were godly and pious men. It was never meant to be used literally as the case with Christianity toward Jesus (peace be upon him). In fact, the term "Son of God" is used all over the Bible referring to people other than Jesus, check out the following verses:
‘"…the son of Enoch, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.”’ LUKE 3:38
‘"…that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose."’ GENESIS 6:2
‘"Then you shall say to Pharaoh, Thus says the LORD, Israel is My son, My firstborn."’ EXODUS 4:22
‘"…For I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is My firstborn."’ JEREMIAH 31:9
‘"For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God."’ ROMANS 8:14
So how come Christians don't regard those people as Gods, the way they regard Jesus (peace be upon him)?

Q: Christians believe that Jesus is the way and their Only Savior; could you give me a solid proof to indicate otherwise?
A: Yes I could, and again, it will be from the Bible. The Bible says:
‘“Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and show us former things? Let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, it is truth. . Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. . I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no Savior." ’ISAIAH 43:9-11
God said, to let all nations and people gather together to bear witness to this truth (Islam), and know that I (God) have chosen my servant (Mohammad). And that He is God with none other before or after. The Chapter talks about all nations being unified under one flag (Islam). Also, in verse 11, God very clearly and categorically stated that He is the Only Savior and none else.

Q: Why Muslims don't eat Swine (Pork) meat?
A: For the same reason both Moses & Jesus (peace be upon them) refused to eat it. God commanded Muslims not to eat Swine meet. God also commanded Moses not to eat or even touch the Swine meat as in the following verses in the Bible:
‘"…and the pig, for though it divides the hoof, thus making a split hoof, it does not chew cud, it is unclean to you. You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you."’ LEVITICUS 11:7-8

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Questions & Answers About Islam


But hey, we are not Jews! We are Christians governed by Grace and not Law?
A: Who said anything about the Jews? The above verses are found in the Christian Bible. Plus, we all know that God gave Moses (peace be upon him) numerous commandments and laws including the Ten Commandments, for people to obey, comply and to adhere to. Jesus (peace be upon him) came along 1500 years later to re-institute Moses' laws & commandments and that by itself is a sign that Prophets came from the same institution with the same message & guidance.
Jesus (peace be upon him) said: ‘“Think not that I am come to make void the law or the prophets; I am not come to make void, but to fulfill."’ MATTHEW 5:17. Jesus (peace be upon him) said: ‘“If you love me, keep my commandments." ’JOHN 14:15. One of these commandments is not to eat Swine meet. I don't see Grace at all, all I see Laws and Commandments that ought to be followed.

Q: According to Muslims, God vowed to preserve the Qur’an. How come the earlier scriptures weren't persevered, and after all, they are God's words?
A: God does not promise such protection or preservation to the former scriptures as the case with the Qur’an. Every prophet was armed with special miracles to prove the authenticity of his message. Moses came to people who rely heavily on magic, so God gave him immense power through his cane. Jesus came to people who were known of strong medical abilities, so God gave him the ability to cure people and even to raise the dead. Both Prophets Moses & Jesus (pbut) were sent to specific people (sons of Israel) with the mentioned miracles and the scriptures. On the other hand, Mohammad (peace be upon him) was sent to people who were fluent in Arabic Language and its grammar. God gave him the Qur’an as his main and lasting miracle. The Qur’an is very unique in its originality and delivery, and the Arabic Language is the best to preserve such revelation. Since Mohammad (peace be upon him) is the final messenger to mankind and the Qur’an was his main miracle, God has promised to protect the Qur’an forever.
Remember, if the miracle dies, then its authenticity will most definitely die and perish. Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them) had their miracles but not in their books, but rather in their actions (the power of the cane & healing), and once they're gone, it was easy for people to edit and interpolate their scriptures (Torah & Bible) to fit their own selfish desires. So far, and after 1400 years later, the Qur’an remains untouched and persevered from corruption. Muslims still believe in Mohammad's original revelation and divine message. The preservation isn't only limited to the text, but to the divine message, and to the delivery and originality.

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Questions & Answers About Islam


Q: Is it true the Qur’an has scientific and medical facts?
A: Yes it is. But remember though, the Qur’an is not a scientific book. The Qur’an carries a divine message and guidance from the Almighty to all mankind. This message touches upon all aspects of human's life including science and medical aspects. When people embraced Islam, it wasn't because of the scientific facts the Qur’an brought forward, but rather because of the divine message in the belief of the One, the Almighty. People embraced Islam because Islam is a simple religion that is sensible and harmonize with the human instinct. Islam is a complete way of life that is based on fairness, equality, and purity amongst all mankind.

Q: I noticed various Islamic Sects! Could you list them for me?
A: About 84 % of Muslims are Sunni. The word Sunni is based on the word Sunnah which is an Arabic word means the Prophet's tradition. Sunnis believe in Allah as the One Creator and Mohammad is His last and final Messenger. Also, Sunnis believe in the Qur’an and Sunnah as the two main sources of Islam. There are, however, Muslim bunches who deviated from the right path of Islam such as: Shia, Baha'i, Sufi, Ahmadiya, etc. So be cautious in knowing whom you are dealing with.

Q: What is the total number of Muslims around the world?
A: 1997 Statistics shows a population of 1.78 Billion Muslim.

Q: Why do Muslims pray so much, you know, 5 times a day! Isn't belief in Allah enough?
A: Besides the fact it's a Commandment from the Almighty, the prayer (Salah) is considered to be a continuous and daily discipline for Muslims. It's true we have the belief in One God and His messenger Mohammad (peace be upon him) embedded in our hearts, but like earlier Muslims, God has prescribed Laws and Commandments for us to observe and adhere to. When we pray, we recite the Qur’an that has God's genuine words and directions. We also offer supplications and blessings to God. The line of communication between Muslims and God never slows down ever. The prayer (Salah) itself is considered a supplication to the Almighty. It is how we make our connection to God and remember him everyday. It is how we ground ourselves while at the same time elevating ourselves spiritually.

Q: I am spiritually confused! What should I do?
A: You owe it to yourself to search for the truth, and I am sure if you have an honest intention searching for the truth, God will aid you in your endeavor. Read more about Islam and weigh your options. Read more about the early revelations & messengers of God and comprehend their law & guidance that they had conveyed to their people at that time, then compare all present religions and see which one coincide with the early revelations.

Q: But I am satisfied with my own belief, so why should I pursue other religion in the first place?
A: Remember, mankind has a free will to do whatever he desires, and we are all held accountable for what we do. If you are content with your religion, then you are solely responsible for your actions & belief and no one else.

Q: How do I become a Muslim?
A: Unlike other religions, Islam doesn't have certain rituals or baptism by religious groups or individuals. All you need to do is to declare the Testimony (Shahadatan). The Testimony is: ‘"I testify that there is no God but Allah, and Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah". ’Once you establish this pure belief in your heart, then you can proceed unto the rest of the pillars of Islam. Many Islamic foundations and mosques will be able to help you getting started learning about Islam...

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Islamic Sources : Quran And Sunnah

Qur'an

”The ultimate manifestation of God's grace for man, the ultimate wisdom, and the ultimate beauty of expression: in short, the word of God.”

This is how the German scholar, Muhammad Asad, once described the Qur'an, and if one were to ask any Muslim to describe it, they would most likely offer similar words. The Qur'an, to the Muslim, is the irrefutable, inimitable Word of God.

The Qur'an was revealed by God Almighty to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) over a period of twenty-three years. The Prophet (pbuh) himself had no role in authoring the Qur'an, and was simply inspired to speak what he heard from the Divine Creator :«"He (Muhammad) does not speak of his own desire. It is no less than an Inspiration sent down to him."» [53:3-4]

The Qur'an was revealed in Arabic. It is composed in a style so unique, that it cannot be deemed either poetry or prose, but somehow a mixture of both. The Qur'an is inimitable; it cannot be simulated or copied, and God Almighty challenges mankind to pursue such an endeavor if he thinks he can: «"Or do they say he forged it? Say: Bring then a chapter like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can, beside God, if it be you speak the truth." »[10:38].

The Qur'an's language is indeed sublime, its recitation moving, as one non-Muslim scholar noted, it was like “the cadence of my heartbeat”. Due to its unique style of language, the Qur'an is not only highly readable, but also relatively easy to remember. This latter aspect has played an important role not only in the Qur'an's preservation, but in the spiritual life of Muslims as well. God Himself declares, «"And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember; then is there anyone that will receive admonition?" »[54:17]

One of the most important characteristics of the Qur'an is that it remains today, the only holy book which has never changed; it has remained free from any and all adulterations. Sir William Muir noted, "There is probably in the world no other book which has remained (fourteen) centuries with so pure a text."
The Qur'an was written down during the lifetime and under the supervision of the Prophet, who himself was illiterate, and it was compiled together shortly after his death by a rigorous method which scrutinized both written and oral traditions. Thus its authenticity is unblemished, and is its preservation is seen as the fulfillment of God's promise: "We have, without doubt, sent down the Message, and We will assuredly guard it from corruption." [15:9]

The Qur'an is a book which provides the human being the spiritual and intellectual nourishment he/she craves. Its major themes include:

• the oneness of God,
• the purpose of human existence,
• faith and God-consciousness,
• the Hereafter and its significance.

The Qur'an also lays a heavy emphasis upon reason and understanding. In these spheres of human understanding, the Qur'an goes beyond just satisfying the human intellect; it causes one to reflect on implications. There are Qur'anic challenges and prophecies. One of the most exciting fields in recent years has been the discovery that, of the significant amount of scientific information in the Qur'an, including:

• the event of the Big Bang,
• embryological data,
• and other information concerning astronomy biology, etc.,

There is not a single statement that has not been borne out by modern discoveries. In short, the Qur'an fulfills the heart, the soul, and the mind.

Perhaps the best description of the Qur'an was given by Ali, the cousin of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) when he expounded upon it as,
“"The Book of God. In it is the record of what was before you, the judgment of what is among you, and the prophecies of what will come after you. It is decisive, not a case for levity. Whoever is a tyrant and ignores the Qur'an will be destroyed by God. Whoever seeks guidance from other than it will be misguided. The Qur'an is the unbreakable bond of connection with God; it is the remembrance full of wisdom and the straight path. The Qur'an does not become distorted by tongues, nor can it be deviated by caprices; it never dulls from repeated study; scholars will always want more of it. The wonders of the Qur'an are never ending. Whoever speaks from it will speak the truth, whoever rules with it will be just, and whoever holds fast to it will be guided to the straight path."” [Al-Tirmidhi]

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[QUOTE=MOSLEM;834]Islamic Sources : Quran And Sunnah

Sunnah

The term Sunnah comes from the root word sanna, which means to pave the way or make a path easily passable, such that it becomes a commonly followed way by everyone afterwards.

Thus sunnah can be used to describe a street or road or path on which people, animals, and cars travel. Additionally, it can apply to a prophetic way, i.e. the law that they brought and taught as an explanation or further clarification of a divinely revealed book. Normally, the prophetic way includes references to his sayings, actions, physical features and character traits.

From the Islamic standpoint, Sunnah refers to anything narrated or related about the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), authentically traced to him regarding his speech, actions, traits, and silent approvals, before and after the revelation.

Each narration is composed of two parts: the isnad (the chain of people who narrated a particular narration) and the matn (the actual text of the narration). The isnad must comprise upright and sincere individuals whose integrity is unquestionable.


The Speech of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

The speech of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) refers to his sayings. For example, he said: “"Actions are judged by their intentions; everyone will be rewarded according to his/her intention. So whoever migrates for the sake of Allah and His Prophet then his migration will be noted as a migration for the sake of Allah and His Prophet. Conversely, one who migrates only to obtain something worldly or to marry a woman, then his migration will be worth what he had intended." ”[Bukhari].

The Prophet (pbuh) also said: “"Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should say something good or keep quiet. " ”

The above two accounts clearly show that the Prophet (pbuh) spoke these words. Consequently, these are known as his speech.

The Actions of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

His actions pertain to anything he did, as authentically reported by the Sahabah (Companions).
For instance, a companion of the Prophet, Hudhayfah reported that whenever the Prophet (pbuh) got up at night, he would clean his teeth with a tooth-stick.
Also his wife, A'ishah reported that the Prophet (pbuh) loved to do everything starting with the right side - putting on shoes, walking, cleaning himself, and in all his affairs generally.

The Silent Approvals of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

His silent approvals on different issues meant his not opposing or minding what he saw, heard or knew of the actions or sayings of his Companions.
On one occasion, for example, the Prophet (pbuh) learned of actions of some of his Companions from other Companions. Soon after the battle of Khandaq, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) gave the order to the Companions to move quickly to surround the tribe of Banu Quraydah, encouraging them to hurry so that perhaps they would pray 'Asr (the late afternoon prayer) there. Some of the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh) responded immediately and left without praying 'Asr. They arrived after sunset, pitched camp and prayed 'Asr- after sunset. At the same time another group of Companions formulated their judgment differently. They thought that the Prophet (pbuh) was merely encouraging them to hasten to their destination, rather than to delay 'Asr until after sunset. Consequently, they decided to stay in Madinah until they had prayed 'Asr. Immediately thereafter, they hastened towards the tribe of Banu Quraydhah. When the Prophet (pbuh) was told of how each group responded differently to his announcement, he (pbuh) affirmed both judgments.

Everything authentically narrated concerning the Prophet's complexion and the rest of his physical features are also included in the definition of sunnah.

Umm Ma'bad described what she saw of the great Prophet (pbuh). She said: “"I saw a man, his face radiant with a bright glow, not too thin or too fat, elegant and handsome. His eyes had a deep black hue with long eyelashes. His voice was pleasant and his neck long. He had a thick beard. His long black eyebrows were beautifully arched and connected to each other. In silence, he remained dignified, commanding utmost awe and respect. When he spoke, his speech was brilliant. Of all people he was the most handsome and the most pleasant, even when approaching from a distance. In person, he was unique and most admirable. Graced with eloquent logic, his speech was moderate. His logical arguments were well organized as though they were a string of gems. He was not too tall or too short, but exactly in between. Among three, he appeared the most radiant and most vibrant. He had companions who affectionately honored him. When he spoke, they listened to him attentively. When he gave orders, they were quick to execute them. They rallied around him guarding him. He never frowned or spoke frivolously."” [Hakim]

Along with his physical features, his Companions also described his habits and behavior with people. Once Anas reported: “"I served the Prophet of Allah (pbuh) for ten years. Never once did he so much as express any bit of displeasure nor did he ever ask 'Why did you do it?' for something I did or 'Why didn't you do it?' for something I didn't do." ”

From the above we can clearly see that when the term sunnah appears in a general context referring to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) it comprises anything narrated about the Prophet (pbuh) and authentically traced to him. Once a Muslim learns of the authenticity of any narration, he/she is obliged to follow and obey it accordingly. Such obedience is mandated by Allah as He declares «"...and obey Allah and His Prophet and do not turn away when you hear (him speak)."» [8:20]

At times, some Muslims are perplexed when people say that sunnah is something only recommended and is not mandatory. Thus they conclude that we are only required to follow the Qur'an and not the Sunnah. Such an argument results from a gross misunderstanding. Scholars of Islamic jurisprudence use the term sunnah to denote what is authentically established of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in deeds which were not subsequently made mandatory by Allah.

They further hold that this includes any saying of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) where he encourages Muslims to do a particular task and compliments those who imbibe such attributes. Thus to them, the term sunnah denotes what is authentically established of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in deeds which he did voluntarily and which were not subsequently made mandatory by Allah. They further hold that this includes any saying of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) where he encourages Muslims to do a particular task and compliments those who imbibe such attributes. Thus to them, the term sunnah refers to what is "recommended" and is not mandatory (in Arabic - "fard" or "wajib").

From the above, we can clearly see that the term sunnah takes on different meanings when used by different Islamic disciplines.

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What Are the Five Pillars of Islam?
The Five Pillars of Islam are the framework of the Muslim life. They are the testimony of faith, prayer, giving zakat (support of the needy), fasting during the month of Ramadan, and the pilgrimage to Makkah once in a lifetime for those who are able.


1) The Testimony of Faith:
The testimony of faith is saying with conviction, “La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur rasoolu Allah.” This saying means “There is no true god (deity) but God (Allah),1 and Muhammad is the Messenger (Prophet) of God.” The first part, “There is no true god but God,” means that none has the right to be worshipped but God alone, and that God has neither partner nor son. This testimony of faith is called the Shahada, a simple formula which should be said with conviction in order to convert to Islam (as explained previously on this page). The testimony of faith is the most important pillar of Islam.

2) Prayer:
Muslims perform five prayers a day. Each prayer does not take more than a few minutes to perform. Prayer in Islam is a direct link between the worshipper and God. There are no intermediaries between God and the worshipper.

In prayer, a person feels inner happiness, peace, and comfort, and that God is pleased with him or her. The Prophet Muhammad said: {Bilal, call (the people) to prayer, let us be comforted by it.}2 Bilal was one of Muhammad’s companions who was charged to call the people to prayers.

Prayers are performed at dawn, noon, mid-afternoon, sunset, and night. A Muslim may pray almost anywhere, such as in fields, offices, factories, or universities.

(For detailed information on how to perform prayer, please refer to the links at How to Perform Prayer or refer to the book entitled A Guide to Salat (Prayer) by M. A. K. Saqib.3)



3) Giving Zakat (Support of the Needy):
All things belong to God, and wealth is therefore held by human beings in trust. The original meaning of the word zakat is both ‘purification’ and ‘growth.’ Giving zakat means ‘giving a specified percentage on certain properties to certain classes of needy people.’ The percentage which is due on gold, silver, and cash funds that have reached the amount of about 85 grams of gold and held in possession for one lunar year is two and a half percent. Our possessions are purified by setting aside a small portion for those in need, and, like the pruning of plants, this cutting back balances and encourages new growth.

A person may also give as much as he or she pleases as voluntary alms or charity.

4) Fasting the Month of Ramadan:
Every year in the month of Ramadan,4 all Muslims fast from dawn until sundown, abstaining from food, drink, and sexual relations.

Although the fast is beneficial to health, it is regarded principally as a method of spiritual self-purification. By cutting oneself off from worldly comforts, even for a short time, a fasting person gains true sympathy with those who go hungry, as well as growth in his or her spiritual life.



5) The Pilgrimage to Makkah:
The annual pilgrimage (Hajj) to Makkah is an obligation once in a lifetime for those who are physically and financially able to perform it. About two million people go to Makkah each year from every corner of the globe. Although Makkah is always filled with visitors, the annual Hajj is performed in the twelfth month of the Islamic calendar. Male pilgrims wear special simple clothes which strip away distinctions of class and culture so that all stand equal before God.



Pilgrims praying at the Haram mosque in Makkah. In this mosque is the Kaaba (the black building in the picture) which Muslims turn toward when praying. The Kaaba is the place of worship which God commanded the Prophets Abraham and his son, Ishmael, to build.


The rites of the Hajj include circling the Kaaba seven times and going seven times between the hillocks of Safa and Marwa, as Hagar did during her search for water. Then the pilgrims stand together in Arafa5 and ask God for what they wish and for His forgiveness, in what is often thought of as a preview of the Day of Judgment.

The end of the Hajj is marked by a festival, Eid Al-Adha, which is celebrated with prayers. This, and Eid al-Fitr, a feast-day commemorating the end of Ramadan, are the two annual festivals of the Muslim calendar.

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I'm fed up of your copy and paste jobs! They're not relevant to the questions we ask at all. You remind me of a Christian Creationist who's doing the exact same thing on another forum I frequent.

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Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi’raaj?
Did prophet Muhammad (pbuh) directly see Allah almighty,on the day he saw Heaven,Hell, etc?
if so,please send me evidance of this from the Quran Hadith.


Praise be to Allaah.

Most of the Sahaabah were of the view that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not see Allaah with his eyes on the night of the Miraaj.

It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “Whoever told you that Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw his Lord was lying. He said that no vision can grasp him [cf. al-An’aam 6:103]…”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Tawheed, 6832).

It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: “I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), ‘Did you see your Lord?’ He said, ‘ He is veiled by Light, how could I see Him.’” (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eeman, 261).

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “ ‘The (Prophet’s) heart belied not what he saw, and indeed he saw Him at a second descent.’ [al-Najm 53:11-12] (This means that) he saw Him twice with his heart.” (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eemaan, 258).

Ibn al-Qayyim said: “ ‘Uthmaan ibn Sa’eed al-Daarimi said in his book al-Ru’yah that there was consensus among the Sahaabah that he [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] did not see his Lord on the night of the Mi’raaj. Some of them excluded Ibn ‘Abbaas and said that he was not one of those who said that. Our Shaykh says that this does not go against the facts, for Ibn ‘Abbaas did not say that he saw Him with the eyes in his head, and Ahmad relied upon this in one of the two reports narrated from him, where he says that he saw Him but he did not say that that was with the eyes in his head. The wording used by Ahmad is the same as that used by Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both). What indicates that what our Shaykh said about the meaning of the hadeeth of Abu Dharr is correct is the fact that in another hadeeth he said that His veil is Light. And Allaah knows best what the Light is that is mentioned in the hadeeth of Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) where it says, ‘I saw Light.’”

Ijtimaa’ al-Juyoosh al-Islamiyyah, vol. 1, p. 12

Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “Chapter: with regard to seeing Allaah, what was proven in al-Saheeh from Ibn ‘Abbaas is that he said: ‘Muhammad saw his Lord with his heart twice, and ‘Aa’ishah denied that he had seen Him. Some people reconciled these two reports by saying that ‘Aa’ishah denied that he saw Him with his eyes and Ibn ‘Abbaas affirmed that he saw Him with his heart. Some versions of the report narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas refers to seeing without specifying how, and others indicate that it was with the heart. Sometimes he says that Muhammad saw his Lord, and sometimes he says that Muhammad saw Him. There is no clear statement from Ibn ‘Abbaas which says that he saw Him with his eyes. Similarly Imaam Ahmad sometimes says that he saw Him and sometimes says that he saw Him with his heart. No one whom Ahmad heard said that he saw Him with his eyes. But some of his companions heard some of the words that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes, just as some people heard the words of Ibn ‘Abbaas that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes. But there is nothing in the evidence to prove that he saw Him with his eyes, and that was not narrated from any of the Sahaabah. There is nothing in the Qur’aan or Sunnah to indicate that, rather the saheeh texts which indicate that he did not see Him are more definitive. In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated that Abu Dharr said: ‘I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Did you see your Lord?” He said, “He is veiled with Light, how could I see Him?”’ And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

‘Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allaah) [above all that (evil) they associate with Him]

Who took His slave (Muhammad) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid Al-Haraam (at Makkah) to Al-Masjid Al-Aqsaa (in Jerusalem), the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him (Muhammad) of Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, etc.)’

[al-Isra’ 17:1]

If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that He would have mentioned that. The same applies to the words “Will you then dispute with him (Muhammad) about what he saw [during the Mi’raaj]?” [al-Najm 53:12 – interpretation of the meaning]. If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that would have been mentioned.

It is proven from the saheeh texts and from the consensus of the salaf (first generations) of this ummah that no one can see Allaah with his eyes in this world, with the exception of the claim made by some that our Prophet Muhammad alone saw Him. But they are agreed that the believers will see Allaah on the Day of Resurrection with their own eyes just as they see the sun and the moon (in this world).”

And Allaah knows best.

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any question

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I have one final question before I start reporting your posts as spam....

Can you, without resorting to any cutting and pasting, explain to me in layman's terms and without referring to Christian theology (which a lot of your work does) why Allah is without question or doubt the one true god?

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I have one final question before I start reporting your posts as spam....

Can you, without resorting to any cutting and pasting, explain to me in layman's terms and without referring to Christian theology (which a lot of your work does) why Allah is without question or doubt the one true god?

Do you mean your question, why is God??

Please clarify your question.
I am sorry for the inconvenience
I have questions I write so no one else to question
Again.
my apologies
and I am sorry
thank you

[Ellis Pugh]

1 - spread Islam by force or by calling? وما الدليل على ذلك ؟ The proof of this?

2 - وإذا كان قد انتشر بالدعوة فلماذا وقعت الحروب بين المسلمين وغيرهم ؟ 2 - If the call has spread, why wars between Muslims and others?

: To answer the first question we in the strength and insistence that Islam did spread the sword, but the call spread, and the evidence put one after another in a series of verses of the Koran, and then in a series of events of history so that all doubt area:

) . Then the Holy Koran, a Muslim Constitution to be followed, it was clear in several verses that call key to Islam, and that no one shall be compelled to change his religion, the Almighty: - no compulsion in religion of the majority may show canceled (1).

. * (Margin) * (1) see we wrote on this subject in the first part of the "Encyclopedia of Islamic history and Islamic civilization." 256 . (1) Al-Baqarah verse 256.

. The main signs of this kind in the last pages to demonstrate the freedom of religion for Muslims. ( * ) (*)

- ا- Except to the path of your Lord with wisdom and good advice

( 1 ) . - Your own religion, your religion

( 2 ) . - You what I just communication, we account

( 3 ) . (3). - - But you stated male, I have Bmsitr

( 4 ) . (4). وأما سلسلة التاريخ فترينا بوضوح أن الإسلام سلك طريقه بالدعوة ، متبعا هذه الآيات البينات ، ومبتعدا كل البعد عن القسوة . The series history Fterina clearly that Islam is the way the call service, following these verses evidence, and away from being harsh.

وإلى القارئ بيان ذلك : And to indicate that the reader:

1 - . 1 - When the Prophet was in Mecca, and when he did not call a single weapon with no money, income group of great men like Abu Bakr and Osman Saad bin Abi Waqas, Talha Zubair and then Omar bin al-Khattab and Hamza Bin Abdul Muttalib.


فهل يمكن أن نقول أن هؤلاء دخلوا بالقوة ؟ Can we say that they entered by force? وأين القوة في ذلك الوقت ؟ Where is the force at the time?

2 - 2 - and persecuted Muslims Quraish persecution or cruel, and Mohammed and his followers inflicted kinds of suffering, in the midst of this suffering when he was with Muhammad and Muslims to Mecca Mglobin them vulnerable, the people of the city seeking Viatniconh of Islam and claiming it relatives and their families, can say that Islam was spread by force between The city's population?

3 - جاء . 3 - The Crusaders to the Middle twice during the Abbasid Caliphate and the Fatimid caliphate to try to eliminate Islam, and if Islam attracts crowds of them * (margin) * (1)-Nahl verse 125. ( 2 ) سورة الكافرون الآية السادسة . (2) Al-sixth verse Unbelievers. ( 3 ) سورة الرعد الآية 42 . (3) Al-thunder verse 42. ( 4 ) سورة الغاشية الآيتان 21 - 22 . (4) Al-Algachep Alaitan 21 - 22. ( * ) فيدخلون ويحاربون في صفوف المسلمين . (*), Enter and fighting among Muslims.

this question is easy to easy we have in the past and some will be recalled following an exhaustive summary. 1 - - Self-defense: Decides history that Muslims had been granted immigration fight, was beaten Ammar, Bilal and Mohammed Yasser, beaten and Abu Bakr, and Yasser died under torture, they did not raise their hands to repel an attack, which occurred on them. ولكن . But Oserfoa infidels in their aggression, and reached a decision to kill Mohammed.


وو. And put their plan to implement their decision before migrating to the city to rid the Arabian Peninsula of Islam and Muslims. ) . It was necessary to defend the Muslims themselves have authorized them to defend God, saying: "those who authorized the fighting they have been wronged and that God has power to victory. Evicted from their homes without the right to say only God" (1). . It is clear from the verse to the one look that Islam does not like the fighting, act (authorized) based voice, and make the perpetrator when he was based voice is God Almighty, was built for an unknown act because God is not - as I understand - to be named Karim related to the authorization fight.

The actor then Vice deleted appreciation: (fighting) any authorized the fighting, did not mention Vice actor also because the word (fighting), Vice-active instead of authorizing a reason (they have been wronged) has called on Muslims to say, now this verse: it Not enough to fight the infidels, because the spirit of peace, though tend to be Olvazaa authorize fight. و : Did not start real fighting between Muslims and others only after the other landed verse:

. Is the "Fight for the sake of God those who fight against you, but do not Allah loveth not aggressors (2)" Although the explicit authorization here, however, conditional on the situation of the defense, non-aggression, aggression caused indignation of God. * ( ها40 . * (Margin) * (1) Al-Hajj Alaitan 36 - 40. ( 2 ) (2) Al-Baqarah verse 190. ( * ) . (*) And this was the main cause of the fighting is self-defense, honor and property.

. There appears to Balhabcp important issue related to the country which is not far from the Arabian Peninsula and Muslims since the early era of Islam, even before they migrated to the migration of the city. والروم . The important question is that Muslims did not attack Abyssinia, because of ill Abyssinia did not affect them, even if it was intended to propagate Islam by force attacked, it is less powerful than the Persians and the rum.

قد . The sea is said to have protected them, and the answer is easy, the King of Muslims freely attacked by strong Constantinople, which took control of the main islands of the Mediterranean, but failed to turn Habcp, what was the only Muslim military defense and response to the attack. 2 - . 2 - Providing advocacy and the opportunity for the weak who want to embrace, they were threatened by the Islamic call, and the Quraish take all means to eliminate it, and then there was a lot of Arabs and Islam tend to want to enter it, but they were afraid to take them down, including the predecessors of Islam Torment and abuse, authorized God His Prophet and the believers to fight Qatlhm, and respond strongly sword attack which may take one of them, the Almighty said: What you are fighting in in the way of Allah and the vulnerable men and women (1). 3 - . 3 - conservative Islamic nation that Tdkha Persians and the Roman armies, before Islam there were not an Arab nation, but there were divergent warring Arab tribes, it was not the Persians and the Roman residents account for the Arabs as the Arabs within the island Istron hardly be related to conflict, and for this Persians and the Roman blind sight of the Arabian Peninsula because they did not have unity could become a threat to neighboring countries in the north. * ( : 75 . * (Margin) * (1) Nisa verse: 75. ( * ) (*)


فلما جاء . When Islam came to secure some Arabs and Kafr by others, and the violent conflict in the Arabian Peninsula between Muslims and non-Muslims (Quraish and Jews), at this stage not interested in Persian and Roman is also the new religion and they said the movement by Arab and killed by Arabs and Jews, she thought The type of internal conflict is soon to die.


I have read and re-read this message (out of respect, and in the interests of a fair and valid argument), but I agree with Norman it has no argumentative merit, and therefore amounts to nothing more than 'spam'. You do not answer my challenges (namely how does an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent god exist in the presence of worldly evil, and how can Islam be moral when it limits freedom of expression) and instead provided a long, irrelevent and largely unintelligible response.

I have not written this message in the vernacular.

[MOSLEM]

I have read and re-read this message (out of respect, and in the interests of a fair and valid argument), but I agree with Norman it has no argumentative merit, and therefore amounts to nothing more than 'spam'. You do not answer my challenges (namely how does an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent god exist in the presence of worldly evil, and how can Islam be moral when it limits freedom of expression) and instead provided a long, irrelevent and largely unintelligible response.

I have not written this message in the vernacular.

thank you.
please read all what i was writting.
thank you

[MOSLEM]

I will proved the existence of God and I will give you evidence on Monday.
What do you think so?

[grammar king mike]

Does Allah only reveal himself on Mondays or something?

[Ellis Pugh]

and to be honest, you answered neither of my challenges. I can try and counter your argument if you would like, but like I said, most of it is unintelligble nonsense.

[MOSLEM]

Does Allah only reveal himself on Mondays or something?

I am sorry < I meant : in monday ,will proved the existence of God and I will give you evidence .

in 29\9 \ 2008

[MOSLEM]

I love my God

[norman]

I love my God

...and I love ham and cheese toasties but you don't see me on the cheese and onion toasties website...

[Chris Worfolk]

...and I love ham and cheese toasties but you don't see me on the cheese and onion toasties website...

Bottom line is, they are all basically the same toastie, much like all the different religions ;) .

[Ellis Pugh]

...and you do have the right to say what you like about both types of toastie without receiving a death sentence...

[norman]

...also the fact that I can change my toastie preference, or even reject toastoes all together and nobody, especially the toastie, actually cares.

[MOSLEM]

I in monday I will proved the existence of God and I will give you evidence .



You eat, drink, and practise all enjoyments of life but you still feel boring,and unhappiness, Although everything is available to you, but why?
the answer is that you give your body all what he want, but your spirit not, which need prayer and and many worships to your lord.
When you go to the church you satisfy the spiritual part of your need, how if your belief is belief of islam the truth belief, you go to the mosque and pray 5 prayers a day of prostration and kneeling and solemnly.
-You can see many suicides because of dissatisfaction and concern and unhappiness which many people suffer from especially atheists. this is an evidence:

http://www.iasp.info/pdf/papers/Bertolote.pdf

Let us not forget that the devil is seized on that hearts, guide it through the dark to suicide.
But Islam is the true religion of Allah, does no harm human beig but help him. God has created man to worship. I have read that there is a person not suffering from any diseases, but was not able to sleep, only two hours, although take tranquilizers, etc. ... But when he embraced Islam and know Meditations of sleep and learn ablution he is now able to sleep.
The second evidence is that scientific studies confirmed that this universe will end and finish, is not that a proof of end this world?
A main evidence is the evidence of instinct, all of us has a sense that beyond this universe there is a creator and a manager of the universe,when a human being feel that he is in danger, for example, if he face an accident of plan or a car he calls God to release him, even if he is an atheist, so what is the secret beyond that??
this universe and its creatures of different colors indicate the presence of the Creator of the universe.if you look at the Footprints in one place it is an evidence that there is some one go from there, so what about this sky, heavens, this earth and so many very complex creatures, are that not indicate the presence of the Creator of the universe who is Al-hakeem al-knowing?.
All of us believe in energy, electrical and magnetic and feel pain, but we do not see it but we feel,so that showed us its existence, and we believe in the existence of God even though we did not see him,but because of the evidences of his existence, ALLAH he sent us his prophets and messengers to show us who we will worship and how to worship him, so those prophets calling us to tawhid (oneness of god ) and to do not make a partner with god.
many nations were feel the need to worship God but its explanation of worship was false and wrong, they worship stone, trees, Jesus the cross and idols.where is the mind??

[norman]

You eat, drink, and practise all enjoyments of life but you still feel boring,and unhappiness, Although everything is available to you, but why?
the answer is that you give your body all what he want, but your spirit not, which need prayer and and many worships to your lord.
When you go to the church you satisfy the spiritual part of your need, how if your belief is belief of islam the truth belief, you go to the mosque and pray 5 prayers a day of prostration and kneeling and solemnly.
-You can see many suicides because of dissatisfaction and concern and unhappiness which many people suffer from especially atheists. this is an evidence:

I feel energised and happy and I neither pray to nor worship anything. That is not evidence. That is conjecture.

Also, your line on suicides is garbage, statistics show no correlation between suicide and religion (or lack thereof) and the number of "suicides" carried out in the name if god is on the increase.

On the plus side, I welcome your new found approach to answering questions. Thanks for ceasing the cut and paste jobs. it is far more interesting to see what you think!

[Ellis Pugh]

Speaking as a geographer, that's a really cool paper, where did you get it from? Unfortunately, as far as statistics goes though it's pretty poor evidence:

The paper claims that Islamic countries have much lower suicide rates, but then again 'In Muslim countries (e.g Kuwait)...committing suicide is most strictly forbidden'. Considering this, it is not surprising that suicide rates in that country are lower than those which look less agressively on suicide. Moreover the Muslim countries in which suicide is lower, also happens to be an area which has a booming economy based in oil reserves, comparing suicide rates in Eastern Europe- ravaged by Soviet rule and post-cold war confusion, with the oil rich states of Kuwait, the UAE and Saudi Arabia is not a fair comparison on religious grounds.

There are a number of other reasons why the Islamic states' suicide rates are lcomparatively high; government controlled statistics, differing climate (particularly sunlight), post-industrial disenfranchisement etc but I can't be bothered putting more in now. Let us turn to the Atheist part.

The paper also claims that Atheists are the most likely to commit suicide. My first problem with this is that is uses CHINA as an example of an atheist country! Of course suicides will be higher if you include China, it has a very very large, very poor rural population in the west who until recently were not allowed to leave their native region, and many of whom have no education, no finances and are left brutally ignored with regard to development schemes in relation to the more affluent east. Within the cities, much of China's wealth is allocated to the elite few (party members) and again the urban poor are ignored.

China aside, the report claims that the study included in 'Atheist'- 'countries where religious where religious observances have been prohibited for a long period of time (e.g Albania)'. Ask any Atheist whether they consider the old Soviet Union countries 'Atheist' and they will say no. The problem with suicide in these countries I have already explained (economic disorder, social disintigration).

Finally I have a problem with the labelling of any country with a religion, since there is often a range of different faiths with a single state. By their reckoning would the UK would be 'Christian'. Smooth.

[MOSLEM]

Speaking as a geographer, that's a really cool paper, where did you get it from? Unfortunately, as far as statistics goes though it's pretty poor evidence:

The paper claims that Islamic countries have much lower suicide rates, but then again 'In Muslim countries (e.g Kuwait)...committing suicide is most strictly forbidden'. Considering this, it is not surprising that suicide rates in that country are lower than those which look less agressively on suicide. Moreover the Muslim countries in which suicide is lower, also happens to be an area which has a booming economy based in oil reserves, comparing suicide rates in Eastern Europe- ravaged by Soviet rule and post-cold war confusion, with the oil rich states of Kuwait, the UAE and Saudi Arabia is not a fair comparison on religious grounds.

There are a number of other reasons why the Islamic states' suicide rates are lcomparatively high; government controlled statistics, differing climate (particularly sunlight), post-industrial disenfranchisement etc but I can't be bothered putting more in now. Let us turn to the Atheist part.

The paper also claims that Atheists are the most likely to commit suicide. My first problem with this is that is uses CHINA as an example of an atheist country! Of course suicides will be higher if you include China, it has a very very large, very poor rural population in the west who until recently were not allowed to leave their native region, and many of whom have no education, no finances and are left brutally ignored with regard to development schemes in relation to the more affluent east. Within the cities, much of China's wealth is allocated to the elite few (party members) and again the urban poor are ignored.

China aside, the report claims that the study included in 'Atheist'- 'countries where religious where religious observances have been prohibited for a long period of time (e.g Albania)'. Ask any Atheist whether they consider the old Soviet Union countries 'Atheist' and they will say no. The problem with suicide in these countries I have already explained (economic disorder, social disintigration).

Finally I have a problem with the labelling of any country with a religion, since there is often a range of different faiths with a single state. By their reckoning would the UK would be 'Christian'. Smooth.




http://www.iasp.info/pdf/papers/Bertolote.pdf

[MOSLEM]

FACING THE KA'BAH (Istiqbaalul-Ka'bah)
(1) If you stand, O Muslim, to pray - then face the direction of the
Ka'bah, wherever you are, in obligatory Prayers and optional
Prayers. This is one of the pillars of the Prayer, such that the Prayer
is not valid without it.
(2) The obligation to face the direction of the Ka'bah is removed
from a warrior having to pray the Fear Prayer and during severe
fighting. It is also removed from one who is rendered incapable of
it, such as one who is (very) ill, or one who is upon a ship, car or
airplane and who fears that the Prayer time will reach its end. It is
also removed from one who prays optional Prayer or the Witr
Prayer upon a riding beast or vehicle. It is, however, preferable for
him, if he is able, to turn it towards the Qiblah for the initial
takbeer. After that it does not matter in which direction it turns.
(3) It is obligatory upon everyone who can actually see the Ka'bah
to face it directly. As for those who cannot actually see it then they
should face its direction.
THE RULING CONCERNING PRAYING TOWARDS A
DIRECTION OTHER THAN THAT OF THE KA'BAH BY
MISTAKE
(4) If a person prays towards other than the Qiblah due to the sky
being cloudy or for any reason other than that, after having tried to
the best of his knowledge and ability to face the correct direction,
then his Prayer will be correct and he will not have to repeat it.
(5) However if a person whom he holds to be reliable comes to him
whilst he is praying and informs him of the correct direction, then
he must immediately turn to the correct direction, and his Prayer
will be correct.
STANDING (Qiyaam)
(6) It is obligatory that the person prays standing. This is a pillar
(rukn) except for:
(i) The one who is praying the Fear Prayer or during severe
fighting. In these circumstances it is permissible for him to pray
whilst riding.
(ii) Also the one who is ill and the one who is unable to stand, he
should pray sitting if he is able, or if not then whilst lying down.
(iii) Also the person praying Optional (Nafl) Prayer, he may pray
whilst riding or whilst sitting if he wishes, and in this case he
should perform rukoo' (bowing) and sujood (prostration) by
lowering his head and likewise the sick. He should lower his head
further for the prostration than for the bowing.
(7) It is not permissible for the person praying sitting to place
something raised upon the ground to prostrate upon. Rather he
should only make the movement for his prostration lower than that
for his bowing, as we have already mentioned, this is what he does
if he is unable to directly place his head upon the ground.
PRAYER ON A SHIP OR AIRPLANE
(8) It is permissible to pray the Obligatory Prayer upon a ship, and
likewise in an airplane.
(9) A person may pray sitting in either of them if he fears that he
will fall over.
(10) In the case of old age or bodily weakness, it is allowed for him
during the standing to support himself against a pillar or with a
stick.
(11) It is permissible to pray the voluntary Prayer during the night
standing or even sitting without an excuse, and he can combine
both of these. So he may pray and recite whilst sitting, and then
shortly before the rukoo' he may stand and recite the few aayahs
that remain for him whilst standing. Then he bows and prostrates,
and then he does the same in the second rak'ah.
(12) If he prays sitting, he sits with his legs crossed, or in any
manner of sitting that is comfortable for him.
PRAYER WHILST WEARING SHOES
(13) It is allowed for him to stand in Prayer barefooted, just as it is
allowed for him to pray whilst wearing shoes.
(14) What is better is that he sometimes prays barefooted and
sometimes prays wearing shoes, doing what is easy for him. So he
should not force himself to wear them for the Prayer nor force
himself to remove them. Rather if he happens to be barefooted he
should pray barefooted, and if he is wearing shoes he should pray
whilst wearing the shoes, unless a situation requires otherwise.
(15) If he does remove his shoes then he should not place them on
his right-hand side, rather he should place them to his left as long
as there is nobody praying to his left. Otherwise he should place
them between his feet2. This order is authentically reported from
the Prophet !.
PRAYING WHILST STANDING UPON THE PULPIT
(MINBAR)
(16) It is allowed for the Imaam to pray upon an elevated place,
such as the minbar - for the purpose of teaching the people. He
stands upon it and says the takbeer3 and recites and bows upon it.
Then he steps backwards in order to perform the prostrations on
the ground at the foot of the pulpit. Then he can return to it and do
in the second rak'ah the same as that which he did in the first.
2 I say: This contains a subtle indication that he should not place them in front of him.
This is an etiquette that is disregarded by the majority of those who pray, since you see
them praying towards their shoes!
3 i.e., `Allaahu Akbar,' meaning, `Allaah is greater.' [Trans. Note]
THE OBLIGATION OF PRAYING TOWARDS A SUTRAII
(BARRIER) AND OF BEING CLOSE TO IT
(17) It is obligatory that he prays towards a barrier (sutrah). It
makes no difference whether he is praying in a mosque or
elsewhere, nor whether the mosque is large or small. This is
because of the all-embracing statement of the Prophet , “Do not
pray except towards a sutrah, and do not let anyone walk in front o
f you. So if a person insists (on trying to pass) then fight him,
because he has an evil companion along with him,” meaning a
devil.
(18) It is obligatory that he is close to it, since the Prophet !
commanded that.
(19) Between his ! place of prostration and the wall towards which
he prayed there would be a space approximately wide enough for a
sheep to pass through. So if one does likewise then he has carried
out the closeness that is obligatory upon him.4
THE REQUIRED HEIGHT OF THE SUTRAH (BARRIER)
(20) It is obligatory that the height of the sutrah above the ground
be at least a span or two spans, due to his saying, “If one of you
places in front of him the like of the back-part of a camel-saddle5,
then let him pray and not care about what passes beyond that.”
4 I say: We know from this that what the Muslims do in all mosques that I have seen in
Syria and elsewhere with regard to praying in the middle of the mosque, far away from
any wall or pillar, is nothing but negligence of the command and the practice of the
Prophet *
5 Mu'khiratur-Rahl: It is the piece of wood placed at the back of the saddle, so the hadeeth
contains an indication that it is not sufficient to use a line upon the ground. The hadeeth
allowing that is not authentic.
(21) The person praying faces the sutrah directly. This is what is
apparent from the command to pray towards the sutrah. As for the
matter of moving slightly to the right or the left, so that he does not
stand directly in line with it, then this is not authentically
established.
(22) It is permissible to pray towards a staff stuck into the ground
or its like, or towards a tree, or a pillar, or towards his wife who is
lying upon the bed beneath the blanket, or towards his riding beast,
even if it is a camel.
THE FORBIDDANCE OF PRAYING TOWARDS GRAVES
(23) It is not allowed to pray towards graves whatever the case,
whether it be the graves of Prophets or anyone else besides them.
THE FORBIDDANCE OF PASSING IN FRONT OF A PERSON
WHO IS PRAYING9 EVEN IN THE SACRED MOSQUE IN
MAKKAH (AL. MASJIDUL-HARAAM)
(24) It is not allowed to pass directly in front of a person who is
praying if he has a sutrah in front of him. There is no difference in
this between al-Masjidul-Haraam and other mosques. The
forbiddance applies equally to all of them, due to the generality of
his ! saying, “If the one who passes directly in front of a person
knew the (sin) that was upon him, then he would rather stand and
wait for forty than pass in front of him." Meaning, passing in
between him and the place of his sutrah.6
6 As for the hadeeth that he * prayed at the outer edge of the area for tawaaf without any
sutrah and the people were passing in front of him, then this is not authentic.
Furthermore, it does not mention that they were passing between him and his place of
prostration.
THE OBLIGATION OF PREVENTING ANYONE TRYING TO
PASS IN FRONT OF YOU, EVEN IN THE SACRED MOSQUE
IN MAKAAH
(25) It is not allowed for a person praying towards a sutrah to allow
anyone to pass in front of him, due to the previous hadeeth, “... and
do not let anyone walk in front of him ...” and his ! saying, “If one
of you prays towards something that screens him from the people,
and someone wants to pass in front of him, then let him repel him
by pushing him on the chest, and let him repel him as much as he
can ... [and in a narration ... then let him fight him, for he is a
devil].”
MOVING FORWARD TO PREVENT SOMEONE PASSING
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[MOSLEM]

26) And it is allowed for him to take a step or more forwards in
order to prevent an animal or a child from passing in front of him,
so that they pass behind him.
THAT WHICH BREAKS / DISRUPTS THE PRAYER
(27) From the importance of the sutrah in Prayer is that it prevents
the person's Prayer being nullified by the passing of that which will
disrupt it. Contrary to the one who prays without a sutrah, since
his Prayer will be nullified if an adult woman, or likewise a
donkey, or a black dog passes in front of him.
THE INTENTION (an-Niyyah)
(28) The person who is going to pray must have in his heart the
intention to pray that particular Prayer, be it the Obligatory Zuhr or
'Asr Prayer, or the sunnah Prayer's for them, for example. This is a
condition (shart) or a pillar (rukn). As for expressing that upon the
tongue, then it is an innovation (bid'ah), contrary to the sunnah.
This was not upheld by any of the Imaams followed by the blindfollowers.
THE TAKBEER (Saying: `Allaahu Akbar')
(29) He begins the Prayer by saying:
Allaahu Akbar Allaah is Greater.
This is a pillar (rukn), due to his saying, “The key to the Prayer is
Purification. That which makes outside actions forbidden is the
takbeer, and that which causes outside actions to become
permissible is the tasleem7.”
(30) He should not raise his voice in saying the takbeer in any of the
Prayers, unless he is an Imaam (leading others in prayer).
(31) It is allowed for the mu'adhdhin to repeat the takbeer of the
Imaam in a louder voice in order for the people to hear it, as long as
there is a need for that, such as the Imaam's being ill, having a
weak voice, or there being a very large number of people praying
behind him.
(32) The person following an Imaam in Prayer should not say the
takbeer until the Imaam has finished saying it.
RAISING THE HANDS AND HOW IT IS TO BE DONE
(33) He should raise his hands whilst saying the takbeer or before
it, or after it. All of these are established in the sunnah.
7 i.e., the saying of, `As-salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullaah ...' to complete the Prayer
(34) He should raise his hands with the fingers extended.
(35) He should raise his palms up to the level of his shoulders, and
sometimes he should raise them even further, up to the level of his
car lobes.8
PLACING THE HANDS AND HOW IT IS TO BE DONE
(36) Then after the takbeer he should place his right hand upon his
left hand, and this is from the practice (sunnah) of the Prophets,
'alaihimus-salaatu was-salaam, and Allaah's Messenger
commanded his Companions with it. It is therefore not permissible
to leave the hands hanging by one's sides.
(37) He should place his right hand upon his left hand, wrist and
forearm.
(38) Sometimes he should grasp the left hand with the right hand.9
WHERE THE HANDS ARE TO BE PLACED
(39) He should only place his hands upon his chest. This applies
equally to men and women.10
(40) It is not allowed to place the right-hand on the waist.
8 I say: As for actually touching the earlobes with the thumb then there is no basis for this
in the Sunnah. Rather in my view it is something that incites misgivings.
9 As for the practice of combining both placing and grasping at one and the same time, as
some late-comers hold to he good, then there is no basis for it.
10 I say: The placing of the hands anywhere else but the chesr is either inauthentic
(da’eef). Or has no basis
HUMILITY AND ATTENTIVENESS (al-Khushoo’) AND
LOOKING AT THE PLACE OF PROSTRATION

[MOSLEM]

to be combleted ::;

please see :

http://s1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_books/signal/en_The_Abridgement_of_Prophet_Prayer.pdf



thank you

[grammar king mike]

Back to copy and pasting, I see.

[MOSLEM]

Back to copy and pasting, I see.


I copy and paste to show you pray and how.
I will shorten again
Again, my apologies
and thank you

I will see you in monday

thank you

[grammar king mike]

Convince us that Islam is true before you tell us how to pray.

[MOSLEM]

Convince us that Islam is true before you tell us how to pray.

I will do that . in monday you will see that .

and thank you

[MOSLEM]

I will do that . in monday you will see that .

and thank you

but I did that

[MOSLEM]

I feel energised and happy and I neither pray to nor worship anything. That is not evidence. That is conjecture.

Also, your line on suicides is garbage, statistics show no correlation between suicide and religion (or lack thereof) and the number of "suicides" carried out in the name if god is on the increase.

On the plus side, I welcome your new found approach to answering questions. Thanks for ceasing the cut and paste jobs. it is far more interesting to see what you think!



really?????


Ok read :

[MOSLEM]

do not say( cope past ,) This text written in Arabic and then asked my friend to translate the text into English


O atheist you are feeling depression and you are annoyed, you deny existence of

God.what is your purpose in this life.you will find the answer in the right

religion that is "Islam",God created us to worship him, he said in the holy

Quran "And I have not created the Jinn and the Human beings except to

worship Me"[Surah Dhzariyat V.56],God did not made life hard and

difficult,the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him encourage and urge

people to marry,in Islam there is no monasticism,before Islam Arabs used to marry so many women,and when Islam come,you can just marry four women not more than that,and to marry more than one, you have to be able to give each your wife its right, as God said in THE Holy Quran: "If you fear that you cannot act justly towards the orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you; two, three, four of them. But if you fear that you cannot do justice, then one only, or, those you possess. It is likelier then that you will not be partial". so what is better is to marry another woman with your first wife or to Betray it and not spend on? Islam oblige man to spending his wife,so Inheritance of man is more than Inheritance of woman.
Islam has answered all the questions of people:why they was created, and what is in grave, and what after death, and are there other creatures than human,now let us look at scientific miracles:
the lates Egiptian studies wich conducted in the Center of Technology of National Radiation, Revealed that prostration to Allah make human free from suffering physical and psychological tension and other neurological diseases...and they discovered that prostration reduce tension, fatigue,and anger,in addition prostration plays an important rule in reducing risk of cancerous tumors.
The researchers pointed out that human subject to excessive doses of radiation,and live most of his life in electromagnetic fields and that what negatively affects his cells,but prostration to Allah helps body to unload the excess shipments which caused diseases such us convulsion of muscle, fatigue and oblivion. and they pointing out that the increase in the amount of electromagnetic Consignments without deflating exacerbating the matter and make it very complicated,and these electromagnetic Consignments couse confusion in the language of cells and destroy and disrupt its interaction with the external environment,so cancerous tumors will growing and maybe the embryoes will get many deformities,and the scientists proved that prostration on the ground help in unloading excess Consignments out of the body and get rid of it without any analgesics or medicaments which may couse harmful side effects.


the Egiptians experts proved that the process of unloading these electromagnetic Consignments start when we connecting our front of head with the ground,where the positive Consignments move from body of human to the ground which has nigative Consignments,therefore the body will get rid of cargo,especially when we use several parts,when we prostrate to God we use several parts such us nose,hands,and knees.
and in an exciting discovering, the researchers noticed in their studies that process of unloading electromagnetic Consignments from body of human requires to trend toward Mecca in prostration,and excactely that what muslims do when they make prostration,where they trend toward Kaaba in Mecca.And the scientists attributed this fact that Mecca is the center of the world's land, located in the middle of the Earth (and not the Grinitch city, as they say ) and we will discuss subject of center of earth later.
And tends toward center of the Eearth is the best conditions to unloading Consignments to human get rid of his tension, and then he feel psychological comfort, and that what muslims feel when they pray.
And the prophet Mohammed peace and blessing be upon him was stretching prostration.
Now let us look at the pork: God Has been forbid eat pork,ok look what does scientists say about that:
Pig contains so many bacterias, viruses,and parasites,and when you eat pork you can imagine what you will get:
Influenza

Balantidium Dysentery

Fasciolopsis Buski

Taenia Solium
Export

Ascaris

Trchinella Spiralis

Zoonoses


Now let us look at what some people deny which is Jinn knock down human beings:
Look at Television,look how muslim preachers ( I do not mean quacks who allege that they cure by the Quran,but i mean Legitimate cureds ) when they reading Quran on someone who was knocked down by Jinn,we notice that this person move in a strange case, then Jinn go out from his body, and returne as he was, natural person.
I wached a documentary on AL-MAJD channel, a philippine person was a magician, and he go back to islam again,because he see effect of Athan-Prayer on Jinn who deal with him.

You may ask me why he embrace islam,as we knew there are many islamic sects: I will say you what does the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him said,he said:"My Ummah will split-up into seventy-three sects; one in Paradise and seventy-two are in the Fire". this one is those who follow the way of prophet Mohammed peace be upon him and his companions.look at Shiites sect, they beat themselves with iron and knives like crazies and mads,and they allege that they love and follow Ahl al-Bayt- People of the House of prophet mohammed peace be upon him-, and Ahl al-Bayt are free from Shiites as Jesus free from christians,and look at so many other sects who do not follow what does prophet Mohammed says,so where is minds,this is a future miracle of the last prophet mohammed peace be upon him which confirm that he is the messenger from God.

[MOSLEM]

now <what then ???

please read what I wrote .O atheist you are feeling depression and you are annoyed, you deny existence ..................ets

[MOSLEM]

do not say( cope past ,) This text written in Arabic and then asked my friend to translate the text into English


O atheist you are feeling depression and you are annoyed, you deny existence of

God.what is your purpose in this life.you will find the answer in the right

religion that is "Islam",God created us to worship him, he said in the holy

Quran "And I have not created the Jinn and the Human beings except to

worship Me"[Surah Dhzariyat V.56],God did not made life hard and

difficult,the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him encourage and urge

people to marry,in Islam there is no monasticism,before Islam Arabs used to marry so many women,and when Islam come,you can just marry four women not more than that,and to marry more than one, you have to be able to give each your wife its right, as God said in THE Holy Quran: "If you fear that you cannot act justly towards the orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you; two, three, four of them. But if you fear that you cannot do justice, then one only, or, those you possess. It is likelier then that you will not be partial". so what is better is to marry another woman with your first wife or to Betray it and not spend on? Islam oblige man to spending his wife,so Inheritance of man is more than Inheritance of woman.
Islam has answered all the questions of people:why they was created, and what is in grave, and what after death, and are there other creatures than human,now let us look at scientific miracles:
the lates Egiptian studies wich conducted in the Center of Technology of National Radiation, Revealed that prostration to Allah make human free from suffering physical and psychological tension and other neurological diseases...and they discovered that prostration reduce tension, fatigue,and anger,in addition prostration plays an important rule in reducing risk of cancerous tumors.
The researchers pointed out that human subject to excessive doses of radiation,and live most of his life in electromagnetic fields and that what negatively affects his cells,but prostration to Allah helps body to unload the excess shipments which caused diseases such us convulsion of muscle, fatigue and oblivion. and they pointing out that the increase in the amount of electromagnetic Consignments without deflating exacerbating the matter and make it very complicated,and these electromagnetic Consignments couse confusion in the language of cells and destroy and disrupt its interaction with the external environment,so cancerous tumors will growing and maybe the embryoes will get many deformities,and the scientists proved that prostration on the ground help in unloading excess Consignments out of the body and get rid of it without any analgesics or medicaments which may couse harmful side effects.


the Egiptians experts proved that the process of unloading these electromagnetic Consignments start when we connecting our front of head with the ground,where the positive Consignments move from body of human to the ground which has nigative Consignments,therefore the body will get rid of cargo,especially when we use several parts,when we prostrate to God we use several parts such us nose,hands,and knees.
and in an exciting discovering, the researchers noticed in their studies that process of unloading electromagnetic Consignments from body of human requires to trend toward Mecca in prostration,and excactely that what muslims do when they make prostration,where they trend toward Kaaba in Mecca.And the scientists attributed this fact that Mecca is the center of the world's land, located in the middle of the Earth (and not the Grinitch city, as they say ) and we will discuss subject of center of earth later.
And tends toward center of the Eearth is the best conditions to unloading Consignments to human get rid of his tension, and then he feel psychological comfort, and that what muslims feel when they pray.
And the prophet Mohammed peace and blessing be upon him was stretching prostration.
Now let us look at the pork: God Has been forbid eat pork,ok look what does scientists say about that:
Pig contains so many bacterias, viruses,and parasites,and when you eat pork you can imagine what you will get:
Influenza

Balantidium Dysentery

Fasciolopsis Buski

Taenia Solium
Export

Ascaris

Trchinella Spiralis

Zoonoses


Now let us look at what some people deny which is Jinn knock down human beings:
Look at Television,look how muslim preachers ( I do not mean quacks who allege that they cure by the Quran,but i mean Legitimate cureds ) when they reading Quran on someone who was knocked down by Jinn,we notice that this person move in a strange case, then Jinn go out from his body, and returne as he was, natural person.
I wached a documentary on AL-MAJD channel, a philippine person was a magician, and he go back to islam again,because he see effect of Athan-Prayer on Jinn who deal with him.

You may ask me why he embrace islam,as we knew there are many islamic sects: I will say you what does the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him said,he said:"My Ummah will split-up into seventy-three sects; one in Paradise and seventy-two are in the Fire". this one is those who follow the way of prophet Mohammed peace be upon him and his companions.look at Shiites sect, they beat themselves with iron and knives like crazies and mads,and they allege that they love and follow Ahl al-Bayt- People of the House of prophet mohammed peace be upon him-, and Ahl al-Bayt are free from Shiites as Jesus free from christians,and look at so many other sects who do not follow what does prophet Mohammed says,so where is minds,this is a future miracle of the last prophet mohammed peace be upon him which confirm that he is the messenger from God.

Any comment?

[MOSLEM]

new, new ,new
for english
for english:
http://www.islamhouse.com/
then choose english

[grammar king mike]

What is this evidence about electromagnets and prostrating yourself to Mecca? Doesn't make sense. I don't mean linguistically, it doesn't make sense logically.

Your other posts are spam.

[MOSLEM]

More to the point, Islam falls short on two big challenges:

Theological: Try making Allah fit to the 'Problem of Evil'. Not easy huh?

Moral: Three words- The Satanic Verses. No add Fatwah and Jihad to that list too.

What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:


God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: {...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}3

Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.4

He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.6}7

Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8

He also said that a man gave a very thirsty dog a drink, so God forgave his sins for this action. The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9

Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10

In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam.

[MOSLEM]

What is this evidence about electromagnets and prostrating yourself to Mecca? Doesn't make sense. I don't mean linguistically, it doesn't make sense logically.

Your other posts are spam.

read: (A New World Map with Mecca at the Center of the World. --- A conventional map contains distortions because the world is round and a map is flat. Such maps can give a very inaccurate idea of the direction and distance to Mecca from other places in the world. On this new world map the direction of Mecca and the shortest distance between Mecca and any other place world is easily measured by a straight line. --- It is amazing that Mecca is approximately at the center of the land mass of the world." )


http://odt.org/mcart/index.cgi?code=3&cat=1


and (The Unique Potentials of the Earth and the Ten Directions.
By Arnold Keyserling and R.C.L.)

Mecca - spiritual center point of the Earth

this is link :http://www.chanceandchoice.com/Chanc.../chapter8.html

thank you

[grammar king mike]

Surely Mecca being at the centre of the land mass will depend on how you do the map? A Pacific-centred map will not have Mecca at the centre.

I also fail to see how having Mecca at the centre proves anything about Islam.

[norman]

Surely you can re-centre a map on any given location? The benefits of having a spherical world!

I am getting tired of your posts now, they are not evidence, just propoganda.

When you have some solid, reliable, testable and repeatable evidence that doesn't rely on historic perspective, the Qu'ran or any other non-experimental source then feel free to post. If you don't then I suggest you examine your beliefs and compare them to the rational, scientific understanding of the universe that most users of this forum possess. I put it to you that your world view will fall some way short of theirs!

[MOSLEM]

Surely you can re-centre a map on any given location? The benefits of having a spherical world!

I am getting tired of your posts now, they are not evidence, just propoganda.

When you have some solid, reliable, testable and repeatable evidence that doesn't rely on historic perspective, the Qu'ran or any other non-experimental source then feel free to post. If you don't then I suggest you examine your beliefs and compare them to the rational, scientific understanding of the universe that most users of this forum possess. I put it to you that your world view will fall some way short of theirs!

So, you have shown for Islam and the role is over in this forum.
And We will all die and we will know the right .
The league ended .
I will turn to another forum ,We have sent God to get people to worship the Persons to worship the Lord of the Persons, And to get people from the oppression of religions to the justice of Islam.

goodbye

[grammar king mike]

The end of an era :'(

[norman]

Sad times...sad times indeed.

[Ellis Pugh]

[QUOTE=norman;978]Surely you can re-centre a map on any given location? The benefits of having a spherical world! [QUOTE]

YAY GEOGRAPHY!

Indeed you can centre a map on any location; plus because it is impossible to map a sphere onto flat paper, when you create a map areas will be distorted. Claiming that any one place is the 'centre of the world' therefore is both arrogant and a pointless waste of time.

[norman]

...therefore is both arrogant and a pointless waste of time.

Hmm, I think you may have hit a few (religious) nails on the head there.

[AlexMagd]

Moslem! Noooooo!

I miss him already.